On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:00:03PM -0500, Gabe Goldberg wrote:

> Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable 
> jobs? From necessity? For other reasons?

Yes.  While it IS enjoyable, even the off hours, the main reason is I got
caught in the dot.com crash, especially because I was over 50, and burned
through all my assets except for home equity (which is now also quickly
disappearing).

> Are folks being downsized/outsourced?

Not directly.  Management decides whether or not to replace retiring
employees with contractors.

> Retiring voluntarily or otherwise? When projects finish or ... certain 
> ages are reached? Or companies migrate off the mainframe? Or youngsters 
> are available for lower salaries?

I'm a contractor myself.  My job will go away if they ever succeed in
migrating every application off the mainframe.  There is some chance
they might decide to utilize my other skills.

> Regarding "dump the mainframe projects" -- have you stayed with a 
> company after migrating to another platform? How has that worked out? 
> Have you seen "dump" projects fail or simply continue forever with 
> mainframes chugging along productively?

This is the first situation I've been in like that.  This one is going
very slowly.  They've been at it for the better part of a decade and
still have apps waiting for resources to change.  However, I believe
they are comitted to doing it.

> Has the skill set required for mainframe work changed during your 
> career? How have tools evolved to support skills required?

I entered the field in the '70s, so I guess so.  Network tools have
definitely gotten better.

> What are boomer mainframers doing in retirement? Are you taking new jobs 
> and "double dipping"? Becoming consultants? Trainers? Writers? With 
> former employers? In locations you've worked or moving?
> Or starting new careers in other fields?

I don't know.

> With decades of experience and perspective -- and considering 
> contradictory trends of organizations migrating to other platforms AND 
> the general resurgence of the mainframe -- what recommendations are 
> offered for the mainframe's future?

It looks like mainframe shops have to grow their own work force.  I don't
think your average college is going to start teaching this stuff.

> Are younger-generation mainframe staffers joining your companies? Have 
> you helped recruit any (including family members!)? How are they 
> integrated into your data centers? Are there inter-generational issues 
> (training, collaboration, communication, work habits, whatever)? What 
> should employers do to smooth the process?

I don't have any experience with this, save I recommended learning COBOL
to my son who just graduated, but he's not interested thus far.

> Have you worked for younger bosses/managers? What's that been like? Are 
> there challenges communicating mainframe benefits, mindset, practices to 
> them?

No.

-- 

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Dave Craig

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