And, as z/OS can use the tapes, what about using an MVS utility to take a
physical backup of the z/VM disks.

2008/11/18 Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Normally yes, but...     Their FLEX system will die tomorrow (or perhaps
> the next day)  but they are not getting a replacement System z for another
> month or so.   (Yes, they will be out of action for a while.... lonnngg
> story...).  So, by the time the z10 comes in, the FLEX system will be dead
> and cold... Not the best planning, for sure, but we just got involved with
> this user very recently and they apparently did not realize that their FLEX
> license was about to expire.  Plus, they have some 'internal issues' that
> are slowing the process of getting a new system.
> They are currently backing up to SCSI attached 3490, but that obviously
> takes a lot more time and "cartridge feeding" than a 3590 would, something
> they hoped to avoid with the 3590.
> Mike
> C. M. (Mike) Hammock
> Sr. Technical Support
> zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
> (404) 643-3258
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>              "Dave Jones"
>             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>              are.com>                                                   To
>             Sent by: The IBM          "[email protected]"
>             z/VM Operating            <[email protected]>
>             System                                                     cc
>             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>             ARK.EDU>                                              Subject
>                                       Re: 3590: problems reading
>
>              11/18/2008 09:02
>              AM
>
>
>             Please respond to
>               The IBM z/VM
>             Operating System
>             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                 ARK.EDU>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike, would it be possibe to network connect the two systems, and avoid
> using tape at all?
>
> Mike Hammock wrote:
> > Thanks Alan, we can certainly give that a try..  But... I assumed (there
> is
> > that problem word) that if we mounted the tape cartridge, did a "TAPE
> REW"
> > then a "TAPE DUMP * * A" that it would wipe out any standard label on the
> > cartridge... that it would become a no-label tape no matter what it was
> > before...
> > As far as I know (!), he has no tape management software or anything else
> > that would be monitoring or looking for standard labels.
> > I will mention the SL issue to him though, just in case....
> > Thanks
> > Mike
> >
> > C. M. (Mike) Hammock
> > Sr. Technical Support
> > zFrame & IBM zSeries Solutions
> > (404) 643-3258
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
>
> >              "Alan Altmark"
>
> >              <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >              ibm.com>
> To
> >              Sent by: The IBM          "[email protected]"
>
> >              z/VM Operating            <[email protected]>
>
> >              System
> cc
> >              <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >              ARK.EDU>
> Subject
> >                                        Re: 3590: problems reading
>
> >
>
> >              11/18/2008 08:34
>
> >              AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >              Please respond to
>
> >                The IBM z/VM
>
> >              Operating System
>
> >              <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >                  ARK.EDU>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, 11/17/2008 at 07:09 EST, Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> A zVM 5.3 user (not even one of our customers) is trying to use a 3590
> > to
> >> migrate from their current ( about to expire) FLEX-ES system to a system
> > z
> >> and is having problems.
> >
> >> From zVM he can (apparently) write to the tape and do all the control
> >> commands (rewind, unload, wtm, etc.).  But he cannot read anything that
> > was
> >> written by VM.  If he does a DDR DUMP, he gets an I/O error on the DDR
> >> RESTORE.  If he does a VMFLPC2  or TAPE DUMP, the corresponding LOAD
> > fails
> >> with a DMSP2C057E " Invalid Record Format".   My best guess is that the
> >> drive is writing in one mode (COMP/NOCOMP) and trying to read in the
> >> other... but....
> >> - I think that when reading, the drive should detect the mode used to
> > write
> >> the tape and  handle it either way
> >> - We tried various combinations of  MODE COMP/NOCOMP to try to force it
> > to
> >> the right mode, with no apparent improvement.
> >> I don't believe he has tried a stand-alone DDR, but I'm not optimistic
> > that
> >> would be any better.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >
> > Has he used DDR, MOVEFILE, DITTO, PIPE, whatever to simply look at the
> > tape?  Perhaps it has a standard label on it, something easily handled by
> > z/OS.  If so, TAPE FSF to skip the label, then TAPE LOAD.
> >
> > Alan Altmark
> > z/VM Development
> > IBM Endicott
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> >
> > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole
> use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or
> disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended
> recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the
> sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. To reply to
> our email administrator directly, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
> DJ
>
> V/Soft
>   z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training,
>   consulting, and software development
> www.vsoft-software.com
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole
> use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or
> disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended
> recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the
> sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. To reply to our
> email administrator directly, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>



-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support

Reply via email to