Terry,

No problem.  Often people are asked to solve simple needs by the most 
expensive, time-consuming means just because it happens to be a standard 
on some other platform, not necessarily because there's a good business 
reason to do it that way.

We used tape because important system data could be kept cheaply on tape 
for at least a year, and be re-run (or used for new purposes) if need be. 
And mostly, because we needed to send the data to MVS (I think it was MVS 
then) in 1985, waaayy before there was an FTP for MVS or VM.  It still 
works without any effort, although it has been updated to use virtual 
tapes that get mounted VERY fast without operator intervention.

I'll let others who have actual experience with Secure FTP on VM answer 
that question; I have not yet implemented it.  I'd like to implement 
certificates on our FTPs, too, so that we don't have to rely on plain-text 
IDs and passwords in NETRC DATA files (ughh!).  That's still somewhere "in 
plan", esp. after the latest zVM 5.4.0 RSU.

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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Hi Mike,
 
Yes, Secure FTP is a requirement for our shop. I guess I could do tape I 
haven?t really thought about that. At this time we only have one tape 
drive for each of our environments. What I was really trying to do was to 
automate this process using FTP (Secure in my case).
 
Thank You,
 
Terry Martin
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology
z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning
Cell - 443 632-4191
Work - 410 786-0386
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Terry, 

It's performance data.  Is that really sensitive data - especially witting 
your shop?  Is there a valid business case for it to be over Secure FTP 
rather than just FTP? 

Secure FTP is a good idea, but at what cost? 

BTW, we put ours on SL tape that the z/OS systems read. 

Mike Walter 
Hewitt Associates 
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Hi 
  
I am trying to figure out how to set up Secure FTP on z/VM so that I can 
send data from my z/VM LPARS to my z/OS LPARS. Mostly I want to get my 
z/VM z/Linux performance data over to my capacity folks on the z/OS for 
reporting. I am not sure how to go about setting Secure FTP up on z/VM. 
Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. 
  
Thanks in advance for your help! 
  
  
Thank You, 
  
Terry Martin 
Lockheed Martin - Information Technology 
z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning 
Cell - 443 632-4191 
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