On Thursday, 01/08/2009 at 06:09 EST, KEETON Dave * SDC 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Scenario: If you had an environment that consisted of Administration,
> Production networks and you wanted a guest to participate in both,
> wouldn't you just create two VLAN memberships to eth0 (ala vconfig)? Or
> would it be prudent to create a separate VSWITCH for Administration and
> Production and use eth0 and eth1 nics (using the PORTTYPE ACCESS
> method)?

This will be driven by your Networking folks.  If they would normally 
configure a trunk port for a distributed system, then it's ok for a guest. 
 If not, no.  From a z/VM security point of view, it's the same, though 
the increased complexity of trunk ports can trigger a failure in the human 
element of the equation.   As David says, this may make the Network Gods 
nervous.

Trunk v. Access:  Sometimes the 'obvious' solution is the 'wrong' (or 
unworkable) solution.  For instance, most sites will not mix Internet and 
Intranet traffic on the same physical switch.  Ergo you cannot use a trunk 
port to carry both.  Or they will not carry traffic in different security 
domains, as represented by a VLAN, on the same wire, so again, a trunk 
won't help.

While on one level it may seem silly, being largely based on history and 
Everyone Knows kinds of things, ranking right up there with "telnet is not 
secure".  On the other hand, using separate switches to carry Internet 
traffic can be a wise thing for other reasons, including ease of physical 
audit (put red tape on it and allowo only red ethernet cables) and the 
ability to just turn it off in an emergency without affecting your ability 
to access the systems internally.  Don't fight with your networking people 
about this stuff - it's their territory and their responsibility, not 
yours.  If you need to buy additional OSAs, for example, then just say so 
and TPTB will decide whether the expense is worth the risk.  (Hint: 
Network folks almost always get their way on this soft of stuff.  It's ok. 
 Breathe in.  Breathe out.  In.  Out.)

It goes without saying, but it must be said, that involving network AND 
security people *early* in the design is far better (for you) than 
surprising them at the 11th hour.  Talk about cranky....

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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