p.s. Forgot to mention those PIPE CP Q commands need to be issued from a privileged user (classes B&D at least I believe) to query/purge spool files for all users
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Scott Rohling <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi Terry -- Everything should work fine using spool from the other system > - and you basically want to avoid having to rebuild your NSS/DCSS's. A > FORCE is normal after coming up from a copy of your spool -- pointers have > usually changed... I've occasionally been able to come up WARM, but it's > rare and all depends on how off the pointers (warm/chkpoint) on your SYSRES > are from the spool packs and how fast things copied. Anyway - FORCE is > fine. > > The only thing you might want to do is to come up without AUTOLOG2 (which > it sounds like you have by accident) and scratch things from spool from the > old system. You should be able to issue some commands to kill most of it > -- like: > > PIPE CP Q RDR ALL | DROP FIRST | SPECS /PURGE/ 1 W1 nw /RDR/ nw W2 nw | CP > | CONS > > Do that 3 times - once for RDR - another for PRT - another for PUN .. > and you should should have cleaned up any old junk from the old system you > don't want. > > For your AUTOLOG2 problem -- you'll have to show us the error.. Try this: > > XAUTOLOG AUTOLOG2 SYNCH #SET SECUSER AUTOLOG2 * > > And see what messages are issued.. or you may get an error from the > autolog and show us that.. > > Scott > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN > Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Scott, >> >> >> >> Probably don’t need to. What I am doing is a DFDSS full volume copy of my >> test system to a new set of system and user packs. I defined some mdisks on >> the running system pointing to the SYSTEM CONFIG and User Directory files on >> the NEWRES. I made the changes to the SYSTEM CONFIG and Directory files that >> matched the new environment, such as new sysres, page, spool, and work >> volumes. >> >> >> >> Pointing to the area on the NEWRES pack that contains the User Directory >> is done and than defining another mdisk for NEWRES as 0 to END. Once the >> changes were made I issued the DIRECTXA USER DIRECT M (FM=’M’ is the FM that >> I accessed the mdisk for the Directory area on the NEWRES pack with >> >> >> >> Question: >> >> 1. Is ok to copy the spool from the other system to the new system? >> Are the NSS on the spool specific for each system or does it matter if >> this >> information is copied to another system? >> 2. When I tried to IPL this new system the first time I issued a WARM >> IPL this failed and I was prompted to STOP or FORCE I elected to issue >> FORCE. It looked like everything came up but I noticed that xautolog of >> the >> autolog2 had failed. The xautolog of autolog1 which starts RACF and a few >> other machines worked fine, but when aoutlog2 was executed it failed. I >> wrote down the error message but I left it at work. Is there a way to get >> any error text from the execution of the AUTOLOG2 exec like to a RDR so >> that >> I can see if there any other errors? >> >> >> >> I guess that is it for now. Thanks for the help!! >> >> >> >> *Thank You,* >> >> >> >> *Terry Martin* >> >> *Lockheed Martin - Information Technology* >> >> *z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning* >> >> *Cell - 443 632-4191* >> >> *Work - 410 786-0386* >> >> *[email protected]* <[email protected]> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Scott Rohling >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2009 2:19 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Format a SPPOL VOLUME on First IPL >> >> >> >> Why are you formatting the spool volume? There's probably a better way >> to do what you're trying to accomplish without toasting your NSS files and >> rebuilding everything... >> >> Scott >> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Kris Buelens <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Some extra word of caution: if you'd format the active spool volumes, >> you will also loos all VM's saved segments, like CMS, CMSPIPES etc, >> all of them will need to be recreated or restored from an SPXTAPE >> backup. >> >> 2009/4/7 Kris Buelens <[email protected]>: >> >> > You can format -new- spool space while VM is running. >> > Anyhow: if you IPL VM with any startup you can, VM will have >> > initialized its spool before you can do something. >> > >> > But, you should have a look on MAINT CF1, search for ICKSADSF MODULE. >> > If you find it, you have the standalone ICKDSF version, that you can >> > start instead of VM: >> > - IPL with as loadparm SYSG or an address of a 3270 (like an ICC >> > console). This will start SAPL in prompt mode. >> > - in SAPL press PF9 (Filelist) and select ICKDSF >> > - enter the ICKDSF statements to format whatever you want. >> > When done, reipl the "normal way" >> > >> > 2009/4/7 Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance >> > Engineering/CTR) (CTR) <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am building a new test system and I want the first IPL to format the >> spool >> >> volume. Currently VM is set up to IPL automatically WARM. Where/how do >> I >> >> change it to prompt for a Startup parameter at IPL time so that I can >> >> specify the formatting of the spool volume? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Terry Martin >> >> >> >> Lockheed Martin - Information Technology >> >> >> >> z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning >> >> >> >> Cell - 443 632-4191 >> >> >> >> Work - 410 786-0386 >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kris Buelens, >> > IBM Belgium, VM customer support >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Kris Buelens, >> IBM Belgium, VM customer support >> >> >> > >
