Thank you !

Ann



On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Alan Altmark <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Thursday, 04/09/2009 at 03:02 EDT, Richard Troth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hmmm...
> > If you think about it, all access controls (for a Class G virtual
> > machine) are mandatory by nature.  The virtual machine cannot
> > discretionarily circumvent those limits which are mandatorily placed
> > on it by the hypervisor.  This would be true for RACF or for any other
> > ESM ... even "none".  (No comments from the man from Endicott.)
>
> Sorry...bzzzt...  :-)  Those terms are from the system's point of view,
> not a person's.
>
> o "Mandatory" means that there is No Free Will; the system obeys a
> *policy* that will govern ALL relevant behavior.  All other considerations
> are secondary.  The crew is expendable.
>
> o "Discretionary" means that, where permitted by policy, a Choice may be
> made and that Individuals may make the Choice.
>
> I think the Oracle (no, not the database) was right: you can't see past
> the Choices you don't understand, so mandatory controls are required to
> maintain the Balance.
>
> And the reason companies often separate "security" from "system
> programming" is to ensure that the Balance between "No Problem, Boss!" and
> "The computer is plugged in - we are at risk" is maintained.  Sysprogs are
> also usually not tasked with the job of saving the company from its own
> stupidity or ignorance.
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
>

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