Pour DR solution is based on a Œpoint of synchro¹ means that everthinhgis
shutdown. Then we clone our prod DASD with Timefinder (EMC2). It¹s take no
time to do the work. Then we backup our clone DASD, sure this way everthing
is clean. That¹s how we reduce impact to the users (shutdown + REIPL). This
solution costs money as you could think and you are certainly aware of such
a solution.
To get back to your questions, I had one I never got answer : what software
compaction does hardware doesn¹t. Is the algorithm different?

Regards
Alain Benveniste 


Le 30/04/09 18:16, « Schuh, Richard » <[email protected]> a écrit :

> In our situation, the tapes are being written to a remote SL3000 located in
> another of our datacenters. They will be read by the same tape units that
> wrote them because the DR site is an LPAR in that same center. We have tested
> the process and are well within the limits established for us. The main
> consideration we have regarding the time is the impact to the users during the
> backup. We have a global user community and the overnight (for us in the
> Americas) period is sometimes as busy as is our daytime shift.
>  
> Regards, 
> Richard Schuh 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System  [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Alain  Benveniste
>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:25 AM
>> To:  [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Packing  Methods
>> 
>>  
>> Richard,
>> 
>> You have the same questions I had when  I started to put  in place our DR
>> solution. We also have 3590E drives and  I never tried to remove the hard
>> drive default compaction. I don¹t see a  reason for that. Now choosing
>> software compaction is a must if you have enough  cpu to do the work for
>> backup and ALSO for restore. For us we can spend more  time to use software
>> compaction because we know that we have enough cpu to do  the work at restore
>> time offsite. The gain at restore justifies to take more  time at backup
>> processing. It¹s true too that software compaction takes less  tapes than
>> with no compaction.
>> If you have many dasds to backup and a time  constraint to restore i would
>> suggest you to both use hard and software  compactions. Our idea is to say
>> that when we restore in a DR test the cpu is  used ONLY for restore. Why not
>> fully using it !
>> 
>> Regards
>> Alain  Benveniste
>> 
>> Le 29/04/09 20:46, « Schuh,  Richard » <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 
>>  
>>> We are working on  a DR process. I notice that the defaults for a Hidro
>>> backup include the PACK  option which tells Hidro to pack, or condense in
>>> some fashion, its output.  The output is being written to 3590E drives. It
>>> appears that there are three  choices we can make for condensing the data:
>>> software only, hardware only,  or a combination of the two (uncompacted was
>>> purposely omitted from the  list). Which is likely to give the best results?
>>> Does software compaction  produce consistently lower output volumes than
>>> letting the drive do it? Is  there anything to be gained by using both h/w
>>> and s/w? Obviously, software  compaction costs in terms of cpu time. The
>>> question is, is it worth the time  spent?
>>>  
>>> Regards, 
>>> Richard Schuh  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
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