If there is no real need to create VSAM files in CMS, but merely to
access VSAM files from CMS, I once had a Rexx add-on that allowed VSAM
access to VSE packs linked to the user. It worked fine for my purposes,
at the time. However, at this point, I don't know if I could even find
it. It's been at least 10 years, perhaps more. I believe it was called
VSAMIO. I'll see if any of my old tapes have it.

Until (or unless) VSAM changes in VSE (as it did in MVS), I see no
reason why most functions would not continue to work.

David Wakser

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Hans Rempel
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question - PJBR

CMS VSAM is no longer marketed or unsupported. Those that are using it
are doing so at their on risk. Initially it was setup to access VSE
VSAM. Some day this will not work because VSE vsam will change. Having
said that....

I needed to rebuild my segment since backing up/loading using SPXTAPE
from
5.2 to 5.4 did not work. Q NSS showed it there but CMS could not find
it. IT appears that z/VSE 4.2 vsam, for how we use it, is still
accessible. Maybe it will break in the next release for VSE.

Hans 

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of David L. Craig
Sent: May 20, 2009 11:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/VM 5.4 VSAM question - PJBR

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:00:30AM -0400, David Boyes wrote:

> On 5/20/09 4:29 AM, "jose raul baron" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > - Does VSAM still exist in z/VM 5.4 ?
> 
> You can still use it if you have it, but no new licenses are available

> and the product has been pulled from marketing. It still works, and 
> you use
the
> same installation instructions as you did on 4.4. It also has all the 
> same limitations.
> 
> > - Is it perhaps included in the z/VM 5.4 code (e.g. as TCPIP) ?
> 
> No, it's under the same terms (and prices) as of old. 

I must be missing something here.  Shops that had it before IBM decided
to drop support (because there weren't any problems to resolve) will
continue to get it as they upgrade VM, but new shops cannot get it for
love nor money?  Please, someone, explain the rationale behind this.
What are new shops supposed to use instead and are existing shops
expected to migrate to that at some point?

-- 

May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!

Dave Craig

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 You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
 Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'"

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