BTW: The 'old old days' I'm talking about is when we had terminal rooms full of 2741's and they were just starting to install 3270's. CP was so primitive back then that I wrote IAMA3270 EXEC and IAMA2741 EXEC for users to run when they reconnected to a different device, as there was always someone who wanted the next available 3270.

Les

Mike Walter wrote:
The reason back in the "old old days" the reason was primarily security... this was written back when REAL MEN only used real 3270's -- which had no LOCK function.

But even now it still serves a bit of a purpose ... it causes users to get a fresh 'ACCESS' to all their MDISKs. True, our MAINT 190 S-disk does not change often. And the Y-disk has been moved to SFS (with an exact shadow copy maintained on the MAINT 19E for servers that come up before that SFS server does).

And it allows our overnight cross-volume MDISK compression code to move un-LINKed MDISKs around to create larger free disk space pools.

But most importantly... it was hard to write (the local timezone support). As soon as I stop using it, someone will ask for it to be implemented again. So THERE! ;-)~

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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In the 'old old days', I was once told that a long-time idle CMS user only occupied one 4k page of storage, so it was pointless to risk the damage to them from forcing them off. Have things changed? Or does your site have a very unusual workload?

Les

Mike Walter wrote:
To be a little more specific, z/VM does not provide such a service. But at least one performance monitor provides exits to do what you wish.

We use Velocity Software's ESAMON product to do exactly this, the
TUNEFRC
EXEC provides the proper call. We've modified that a lot to manage forcing users idle for 3+ hours between the time of 9PM and 5AM in their

own timezone - but that is a very site-dependent requirement.

I'm not sure if other performance management products provide the same sort of capability, but it would seem likely. Any z/VM site serious
about
using z/VM needs a supported performance management product.

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Hi

Where do you set the timeout value for an idle VM/CMS user for automatic

logoff?

Thank You,

Terry Martin
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