Thank you

Now that you mention it, Rob has told me that in the past at a SHARE.  I 
sincerely wish I could use zVPS...8(....
I will continue to not take reality - virtual or otherwise - seriously.

Life is too important to be taken seriously - Oscar Wilde. 



-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Barton Robinson
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: zVM CPU allocation

As Rob and Alan have less blatantly stated, Linux CPU numbers are bogus 
in a virtual environment.  The CPU reporting problem has been corrected 
in ESALPS (now zVPS) for those that want to use linux numbers for 
anything useful.  If you don't have a mechanism to correlate the linux 
cpu numbers to reality, then one would not want to take the "virtual 
reality" too serious....

David Dean wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:01:52 -0600, Alan Ackerman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Where are you getting the 99% number? Which version of Linux are you 
>> running? Older versions of Linux were fooled by the CPU being taken away 
>> and reported high values of CPU utilization in 'top' and elsewhere. 
>>
>> If all the numbers are from PerfKit, they don't make sense. You cannot 
>> have 3 users running at 99% and have the 3 IFLs running at 10-15% each. 
>> Are you sure you are looking at the same time interval? If you are looking 
>> at both Linxu and VM tools, they may not match up.
>>
>> Alan Ackerman                                            
>> Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com   
>>
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:17:26 -0500, Dean, David (I/S) 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, this is for all you guys that understand the magic tunnel in which 
>> CPU processing (usage) flows from an IFL to a zLinux server.
>>> We have a z10 running zVM 5.4 in a dedicated LPAR with 3 dedicated 
>> IFL's.  We have approximately 30 zLinux servers.  Using IBM PerfKit, I 
>> list all of the individual USER / zLinux CPU usages, each of which 
>> generally run in the 1 to 5 % range.  These servers do of course peak 
>> higher but on average they are pretty low.  We then take a look at the 3 
>> IFL's and see usage of maybe 5% on each.  Now, let's say we have a USER / 
>> server or two or three go berserk and peak CPU at 99 % for an extended 
>> period of time.  We then look at the IFL CPU usages and all three have 
>> climbed to maybe 10 to 15% each.
>>> How did the CPU get allocated?  Is it always spread evenly across the 
>> IFL's, is that a setting?  Why, if there were 3 USER / servers running at 
>> 99%, was more CPU not allocated from the 3 IFL's?  Why did the IFL's 
>> decide to allocate X amount and go no further.
>>> In the USER DIRECTORY I allocate storage but not CPU.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David M. Dean
>>> Information Systems
>>> BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee
>>>
>>>
>>>
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