CONSOLE is disconnected (it's never used, except for an emergency and to
REIPL.)

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer                   MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.   Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.                Fax:   (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas  76710
        

 


-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On
Behalf Of fjpohlen-maill...@gmx.de
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:02 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM

Frank,

the SET RUN ON doesn't hold the system when it enters the CP READ state.

You can set it dynamically by SEND CP vse-userid SET RUN ON. This 
options cannot be queried by Q RUN. You must enter Q SET.
output of Q SET

MSG ON , WNG ON , EMSG ON , ACNT OFF, *RUN ON *
LINEDIT ON , TIMER OFF , ISAM OFF, ECMODE ON
ASSIST OFF , PAGEX OFF, AUTOPOLL OFF
IMSG ON , SMSG OFF , AFFINITY NONE , NOTRAN OFF
VMSAVE OFF, 370E OFF
STBYPASS OFF , STMULTI OFF 00/000
MIH OFF , VMCONIO OFF , CPCONIO OFF , SVCACCL OFF , CONCEAL OFF
MACHINE ESA, SVC76 CP, NOPDATA OFF, IOASSIST OFF

Do you run your VSE disconnected or logged on? I normally use dialed
devices for the vse consoles. Thus it's easy to get the console at any
vm enabled terminal, even if you are connected over a VPN.

kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen


Frank M. Ramaekers schrieb:
>
> Exactly what are the reasons (if there is more than one) that will 
> cause CP for FORCE a user off? (If more than one, it would be nice to 
> have at least a reason code for the FORCE.)
>
> Will "SET RUN ON" prevent a FORCE? Why don't I see a "QUERY RUN" 
> command? Is there no way to tell if "SET RUN ON" was set?
>
> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
>
>       
>
> Systems Programmer
>
>       
>
> MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
>
> American Income Life Insurance Co.
>
>       
>
> Phone: (254)761-6649
>
> 1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
>
>       
>
> Fax: (254)741-5777
>
> Waco, Texas 76701
>
>       
>
>
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>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]

> *On Behalf Of *Wakser, David
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:20 AM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: FORCED BY SYSTEM
>
> Frank:
>
> Probably because it was actually logged onto a terminal and had a CP 
> READ (or a VM READ). Those are what the system forces off.
>
> David Wakser
>
>
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>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu]

> *On Behalf Of *Frank M. Ramaekers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2010 9:13 AM
> *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> *Subject:* FORCED BY SYSTEM
>
> I'm at a loss as to why our TEST (luckily) z/VSE system got FORCED. As

> far as I can tell it was active up until midnight:
>
> J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:30 01/11/10
>
> J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:31 
> 01/11/10
>
> J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:36 01/11/10
>
> J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:37 
> 01/11/10
>
> J1 0050 OC002I PARTITION NOW ACTIVE AGAIN 23:59:42 01/11/10
>
> J1 0050 OC001I PARTITION IN WAIT STATE FOR 000005 SECONDS 23:59:42 
> 01/11/10
>
> (rest of console could have been lost because of buffering)
>
> But at midnight...
>
> 10/01/12 00:00:00 : 00:00:00 GRAF 6F07 DISCONNECT AILTEST USERS = 35 
> FORCED BY SYSTEM
>
> Then 15 minutes later...
>
> 10/01/12 00:15:00 : 00:15:00 USER DSC LOGOFF AS AILTEST USERS = 34 
> FORCED BY SYSTEM
>
> Was this because the virtual machine's console was (originally) 
> connected to a real terminal?
>
> Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
>
> Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
>
> American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649
>
> 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777
>
> Waco, Texas 76710
>
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