Mike,

Along those lines, would it be feasible to move the CP Directory LINK 
statements for each guest into a CMS file where the shared PROFILE EXEC 
resides? 

There could be one file for "COMMVSE CMDS" containing LINK commands that 
every VSE guest issues.

Then a separate file for each guest that has "special needs" (let's not 
"go there" regarding comments about how all VSE guests have "special 
needs: - it's not Friday yet!).  ;-)
For example:
"VSE1 CMDS" contains only LINK (and/or other!) commands required by that 
server.
"VSE2 CMDS" contains only LINK (and/or other!) commands required by that 
server.
And so on...

The common PROFILE EXEC would issue: 
address CMS  'STATE COMMVSE CMDS *'
If rc<>0 then ... report that a critical file is missing and do whatever 
is required...
address CMS 'STATE' userid() 'CMDS *'
If rc<>0 (and for those servers where the missing file is critical) ... 
report that a critical file is missing and do whatever is required...
Else ... read the "userid() CMDS *" file, executing each command, 
reporting non-zero return codes as required.

No PROP or other PROP-like facility would be required.

Just a thought since you seemed to want to avoid PROP ...

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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Hello Doug,
 
I do have a shared PROFILE EXEC that sets up the environment before the 
IPL of z/VSE in each of the VSE users. Changing the exec to validate that 
each machine has the minidisks it requires is more prone to error then 
having CP tell me that something is amiss at LOGON time. 
 
Thanks,  
 
Mike Horlick
Conseiller
CGI Gestion Intégrée des Technologies
1350 Boul. René-Lévesque Ouest
Montréal, Qc, H3G 1T4

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
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Sent: March 1, 2010 3:28 PM
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Mike,
You could have one or many of your VSE guests IPL CMS in the directory and 
have them all point to a shared RR 191 mini disk. Then customize a PROFILE 
EXEC to do the CP 'whatever' and then, determine what to really IPL based 
on USERID. 
Sorry its not REXX, old stuff.
 
PROFILE EXEC:
&TRACE
CP SP CONSOLE START *  
DROPBUF &BUFNO 
MAKEBUF 
&BUFNO = &RC 
EXECIO * CP ( MARGINS 1 8  STRING QUERY USERID 
&IF &RC NE 0 &CALL -ERROR &RC 
&READ STRING &ME 
&IF &ME    EQ VSEID     &GOTO -VSEID 
CP MSG OP USER &ME ATTEMPTED TO USE SHAREIPL. NOT DEFINED. 
&GOTO -EXIT 
-VSEID 
EXEC VSEID &ME 
&GOTO -EXIT 
-ERROR 
&RC = &1 
&READ STRING &LERROR 
&TYPE &0 PROBLEM OCCURED TRYING INQUIRY ON USERID. 
&TYPE &0 &LERROR 
&EXIT &RC 
-EXIT 
&EXIT 999 
====================
VSEID EXEC: 
&TRACE ALL 
&ME = &1 
CP SET RUN ON 
*                              ************************************* 
*  >>>  CAUTION  <<<           * THE FOLLOWING COMMAND HAS X'15'   * 
*  >>>  CAUTION  <<<           * BETWEEN THE WORDS GUEST AND IPL.  * 
*  >>>  CAUTION  <<<           * ISSUE THE 'SET HEX ON' COMMAND    * 
*  >>>  CAUTION  <<<           * BEFORE CHANGING THIS LINE.        * 
*                              *************************************
*    EACH COMMAND MUST BE FOLLOWED BY A X'15'.                        * 
*    TO ACCOMPLISH THIS;                                              * 
*        1). SET HEX ON                                               * 
*        2). KEY THE COMMANDS(LEAVING 2 SPACES BETWEEN EACH) ON 1 LINE* 
*        3). BRING THE LINE JUST KEYED TO THE CURRENT LINE.           * 
*        4). CH /X'4040'/X'15'/1 N   (N = THE NUMBER OF COMMANDS)     * 
*        5). FILE                                                     * *  
 
CP TERM CONM 3270 BRE GUEST"IPL 1A6 CLEAR 
* CP TERM CONM 3270 BRE GUEST"IPL 1A7 CLEAR LOADPARM ....T 
* CP TERM CONM 3270 BRE GUEST"IPL 1A7 CLEAR LOADPARM ..... 
CP MSG OP IPL FAILED FOR &ME  RC= &RC 
EXIT &RC
==================
Regards, Doug  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Horlick, Michael 
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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 14:52
Subject: Re: Trapping output right after LOGON
 
What do you mean by « Changing LINK to COMMAND LINK may help, that's for 
sure.  I have MDISK statements for my VSE minidisks.
Also, we run VM:Operator and not PROP. One of the guys in our automation 
group set up VM:Operator and I wonder if he knows how to handle output 
right from an XAUTOLOG of a virtual machine. 
 
Mike Horlick
Conseiller
CGI Gestion Intégrée des Technologies
1350 Boul. René-Lévesque Ouest
Montréal, Qc, H3G 1T4

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On 
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Sent: March 1, 2010 2:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Trapping output right after LOGON
 
Mike, I think I tried COMMAND SPOOL CONS START but COMMANDs seem to be 
executed after the devices are set up, hence too late to catch problems 
with MDISK statements.
Changing LINK to COMMAND LINK may help, that's for sure.
2010/3/1 Mike Walter <mike.wal...@hewitt.com>
Look up the directory "COMMAND" statement in the CP Planning and
Administration manual.

E.g. In the CP Directory entry for each VM userid for which you want the
virtual console started as the VM is constructed the line:

COMMAND SPOOL CONSOLE START

Only CP commands may be entered into the CP Directory for users.  You may
specify any CP command argument.  More details in the manual.

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
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Greetings,

I would like to trap all the CP console output from a virtual machine from
its initial XAUTOLOG/LOGON. I have several z/VSE machines which are
XAUTOLOGed on by the operator. Reason?  In rare instances, maybe a pack is
not attached to the system which contains some minidisks used by these
machines. I know there could be a message such as:

HCPLNM108E MIKE A194 not linked; volid XT160D not mounted

For a test I have changed a virtual machine CONSOLE statement in its
directory to CONSOLE 009 T MIKE OBS and I get all messages after the user
logs on. I would like to programmatically trap these messages from a
disconnected service machine so that it can be detected. Tried WAKEUP but
no luck.

Suggestions?

Mike Horlick
Conseiller
CGI Gestion Intégrée des Technologies
1350 Boul. René-Lévesque Ouest
Montréal, Qc, H3G 1T4



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