"historically" might be right.  Certainly since Programmable Operator came 
along (IIRC) in VM/SP R3, running CMS on OPERATOR has been a "GOOD THING". 
 Later, more advanced console management products (IBM Operations Manager 
for z/VM, VM:Operator from CA, etc.) have vastly improved automation and 
productivity - to say nothing of all the pretty colored messages! 

These here days computer operators have much better and more advanced 
places to play Adventure, Zork, Pong, and all the rest.  There's this cool 
thing called an Atari, and another - a Magnavox Odyssey (just supply your 
own TV as a monitor)... well, we were speaking "historically", right?  :-)

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.






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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: 30 March 2010 20:40
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: After getting PerfKit working...
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> On Tuesday, 03/30/2010 at 03:30 EDT, Dave Wade 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I always thought allowing OPERATOR to IPL CMS was a BAD thing. Its 
> > been a while since I used VM but in the past issues like this were
> often
> > spool related.  Is something flooding the spool..
> 
> As a general rule, the key system operation user IDs should 
> IPL 190, not 
> CMS in order to reduce the dependency on the spool. 

I was thinking IPL any thing as historically they didn't have a 190 or 191
and so couldn't run anything, inlcuding games. 

> If you're using 
> something like IBM Operations Manager for z/VM to create 
> console logs, 
> then you eliminate still another spool touchpoint.
> 



> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott






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