Hi Bill;

We have 295 CP volumes (3390 mod 27) shared between the two LPAR's, running
CSE. There are an additional 15,652 volumes owned by z/OS, which we keep
offline to z/VM.

We run a script in AUTOLOG1 which goes through the list of volumes and makes
the decision for each if it should stay online to z/VM, and takes action to
set things into their "normal" state.

ckofflin
0 errors
295 CP OWNED or SYSTEM disks skipped
0 PAV Aliases skipped
15652 found already offline
0 varied offline
Ready; T=0.22/0.31 08:23:27


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On 3/30/10 1:18 PM, "Bill Munson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Eginhard,
> 
> Yes it was trial and error - and we made it LARGE enough not to fail again
> 
> In our Largest LPAR we have 80 guests running - 52 are LINUX guests.
> 70 mod27's and 75 mod3's for (paging) and one mod9 the RES pack.
> 
> we have 5 VM lpars and all lpars can see the other dasd, though not
> attached to the system,
> only the dasd for each LPAR is attached to that system, we do not vary off
> anything but the MVS dasd
> 
> q monitor 
> MONITOR EVENT ACTIVE    BLOCK    4     PARTITION    16384
> MONITOR DCSS NAME - MONDCSS
> CONFIGURATION SIZE      800 LIMIT         1 MINUTES
> CONFIGURATION AREA IS FREE
> USERS CONNECTED TO *MONITOR - ESAWRITE
>                               LINMON
>                               PERFSVM
>  
> MONITOR SAMPLE ACTIVE
>                INTERVAL    1 MINUTES
>                RATE     1.00 SECONDS
> MONITOR DCSS NAME - MONDCSS
> CONFIGURATION SIZE     1500 LIMIT         1 MINUTES
> CONFIGURATION AREA IS FREE
> USERS CONNECTED TO *MONITOR - ESAWRITE
>                               LINMON
>                               PERFSVM
> 
> munson
> 201-418-7588
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Eginhard Jaeger <[email protected]>
> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
> 03/30/2010 01:57 PM
> Please respond to
> The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> To
> [email protected]
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Re: [?? Probable Spam]  Re: Perfkit SAMPLE CONFIG size too small
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There is no single 'right' MONDCSS size for all systems: it's about
> performance,
> so 'it depends'. The MONDCSS has to be large enough to allow the CP
> monitor
> to place all the monitor records you told it to collect in that storage
> area. Since
> most users just go and enable whole domains, it's the domains generating
> the 
> largest
> number of monitor records that one wants to watch. For sample records that
> 
> is,
> on most systems, the I/O domain, where you could end up with tens of
> thousands
> of devices already years ago when I still worked with VM. Be aware that
> the
> monitor will create a device activity record 3 of 268 bytes and a cache
> activity
> record 4 of 264 bytes for each DASD, and they must all fit simultaneously
> into
> the MONDCSS, together with all the other monitor records.
> (And, as mentioned in another append, the default SAMPLE CONFIG size is
> often too small for so many devices and has to be made larger.)
> 
> But there's one general rule that has not yet been mentioned in this
> thread: 
> don't
> let the MONDCSS overlay the storage of the virtual machine that is doing
> the
> data collecting, in this case PerfKit, or it will not be able to use it.
> 
> While your MONDCSS looks VERY large to me, I'm admittedly out of date as
> far as current I/O configurations are concerned, and you apparently ended
> up
> with it for a good reason, after a trial and error phase with smaller
> sizes.
> Can you tell me the number of I/O devices that your VM sees and is
> collecting
> data for?
> 
> Eginhard
> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Munson" <[email protected]>
>> 
>> That does not look like it is large enough.
>> 
>> here is my definition
>> 
>> MONDCSS  CPDCSS     N/A    08000  0FFFF   SC  R
>> 
>> It can work for a while but if the segment is not large enough it will
>> soon fail.
> 
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