Sense of humors are fussy things, aren't they?     ;-)    This would be
better with a beer in hand and some peanuts in the shell..

I officially dub it:   12end minidisk and save a few more bytes.   Those
non-mainframe muggles will pronounce it 'twelve end minidisk' and we can all
smirk.

Have a good weekend, Richard, and all!   (I never whine, I only grumble and
mumble - like a true curmudgeon)

Scott Rohling

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Mike Walter <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Your original question included the phrase:
> > every time I use the phrase 'full pack minidisk'.
>
> Now you're whining that:
> " 1 to END minidisk" just doesn't have the same ring to it as 'full
> pack'.   And it's another syllable to mumble..  ;-)
>
> Granted, it does take one *whole extra syllable*, but :
> 1 to end minidisk   vs
> full pack minidisk
> *saves a whole BYTE!*
>
> Maybe it depends on your elocution skills vs your typing speed and quality
> (both frequent challenges for me).  But "syllable" itself uses a the same
> number of syllables as bytes as "1 to end"!  ;-)
>
> Oh look... it's: FRIDAY!!  BYTE me!  ;-)
>
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's.
>
>
>  *"Scott Rohling" <[email protected]>*
>
> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <[email protected]>
>
> 06/18/2010 04:26 PM
>  Please respond to
> "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <[email protected]>
>
>
>   To
> [email protected]
> cc
>   Subject
> Re: what is a 'full pack' minidisk?
>
>
>
>
> Ok --  darn it.   "a 1 to END minidisk" just doesn't have the same ring to
> it as 'full pack'.   And it's another syllable to mumble..  ;-)
>
> For Linux guests - my typical recommendation is to use '1 to END minidisks'
> rather than get into dividing things any smaller - unless there is a really
> compelling reason.   And I typically refer to this as a 'full pack'
> provisioning implementation -- so I think I need to stop doing that.
>
> Thanks all -- wanted to make sure I wasn't in the dark on how to refer to
> these beasties.
>
> Scott Rohling
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Alan Altmark 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> On Friday, 06/18/2010 at 05:07 EDT, Scott Rohling
> <*[email protected]* <[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Are there different terms for a minidisk that is defined from 1-END as
> opposed
> > to 0-END ?    I keep having to clarify which I mean every time I use the
> phrase
> > 'full pack minidisk'.
>
> A fullpack minidisk is define as either 0-END or with DEVNO.
>
> > Is there a more succinct way to refer to them separately so I don't have
> to
> > parenthetically explain what I mean?   (1-END)
>
> There is no official term, but I don't see what's wrong with "a 1 to END
> minidisk".   It requires no more explication than "fullpack".  If there
> isn't a VMer on the other end of the conversation, you're going to explain
> it no matter what you say!  :-)
>
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
>
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