This undoubtedly predates the existence of PROP, SCIF, VM:Operator and the 
likes. IMHO, the message is received by the target machine if it went to the 
console that was active at the time of the message, including the spooled 
console log.  

Put another way, if the machine is properly set up for running disconnected and 
has its console spooled with MSG ON, then it receives the message. If it is 
running disconnected and does not have its console spooled, or it has MSG OFF 
regardless of any other consideration, then it really does not receive the 
message and a message to the sender stating that the message was not delivered 
is appropriate. I think that there is a difference between not receiving the 
message and not having it displayed on a terminal (real or emulated).
  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Greenberg
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Message Handling
> 
> On: Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 03:39:02PM -0700,Schuh, Richard Wrote:
> 
> } With this setup:
> } 
> } *       Disconnected service machine
> } *       MSG ON
> } *       Console spooled
> }
> } When a user sends a msg to that machine, the result is:
> } 
> } *       The message is displayed in the spooled console log.
> } *       The sender gets the message "HCPMFS057I svmid not 
> receiving; disconnected"
> }
> } Why does the sender get the message? Clearly, the message 
> was received. That is, it was received unless you have some 
> interesting definition of "received".
> 
> IMHO, it went straight to the console log and was not 
> seen/received by whatever processes (if any) that were 
> running in the VM.
> 
> Now if you had something running that had SET MSG IUCV and 
> had IUCV running,  Then I expect that you would not have seen 
> the "not receiving".
> 
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