Well, if you had a new install on z10+ and not an upgrade, it would certainly 
be the thing to do.
For those of use with 10+ systems, it's not worth a jump.
There wasn't even an ESP run for 6.1 since there was so little function that 
didn't go into 5.4.  Some customers did get the new function SPEs early though 
and tested them extensively.

Marcy 

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Of George Henke/NYLIC
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z10 and z/VM 6.1


>We've tried it and 6.1 will run as a guest of 5.4 on a z10. 

But will 6.1 run on a z9 or less?  No, I've tried it. 

So for a "seamless" migration to new hardware, maybe it is not so bad to change 
one thing at a time and keep 5.4. 

True, there is less risk going from 6.1 to 6.2, than 5.4 to 6.2, but "tomorrow 
never comes", what happens today determines what happens tomorrow. 

The way IBM has configured things for 6.1: 
• shorter expiration date than 5.4, 
• not much new functionality, 
• no hardware "downward compatibility" below z10,

6.1 is, for all intents and purposes, a "dead release". 

Hope "Chuckie" isn't listening. 


  

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We've tried it and 6.1 will run as a guest of 5.4 on a z10..

If you're swinging all your DASD over to the z10 - you could just bring up z/VM 
5.4 -- build your 2nd level 6.1 guest - merge and migrate and bring up 6.1 1st 
level...

Scott rohling

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Bruce Hayden <[email protected]> wrote: 
I haven't tried it, but 6.1 should run as a guest of 5.4 on a z10 (or later.)  
z/VM does not "hide" or "downgrade" the architecture of the machine from the 
guest (as much as possible), so the machine features needed by 6.1 should still 
be available to a guest of 5.4 on a z10. 


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Frank M. Ramaekers <[email protected]> 
wrote: 
We are installing a z10 this weekend with z/VM 5.4.  My question is what are my 
migration options for migration to z/VM 6.1?   I don’t suppose that 6.1 can run 
under 5.4, since 6.1 requires a z10+ and 5.4 does not?  (If so, problem 
solved.  Otherwise it looks I’ll be limited to 1.  LPAR the z/VM 6.1 or  2. Run 
the production 5.4 under 6.1) 
  
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