It is a hard sell to management to buy an ESM if there is no audit
requirement.

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:34 AM, David Boyes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 12/8/10 4:15 PM, "Quay, Jonathan (IHG)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I don't.  I don't have any human beings on my systems except for system
> >programmers that have full authority anyway.  Having to GRANT linux
> >servers is an extra thing that has to be managed.  I would like to
> >define a vswitch as unrestricted.
> >
> >Is there anyone out there that actually gains security from CP users not
> >being granted onto their vSwitches? How many people would like to be
> >able to
> >define a vSwitch as "open to the public" or not requiring a grant to be
> >accessed?
>
> I'll make a counter argument: there is a significant difference between
> being allowed to create a piece of infrastructure, and being allowed to
> use it. Granting permission to use something after it's created is that
> second item, and I would say that there is a very good reason to have the
> two steps separate so that they can be separately controlled and audited.
>
> So, I think I'm going to side with Alan. If you want an unrestricted
> VSWITCH, you need to kick your ESM vendor to allow you to control them and
> declare a rule that anyone can attach to said VSWITCH.
>
> OTOH, I think this also argues for a bigger step: for IBM to supply a
> default ESM and quit having to do it two different ways. We can always
> replace the default one with something better, but there's a lot of
> wheel-spinning being done in IBM development to support the two different
> models.
>
> Personally, I dislike RACF with a passion, but I'd rather have RACF be
> present by default and have one single way to do security management (via
> the ESM) than have to have a completely separate command authorization
> matrix to worry about via CP privilege classes, etc, etc, etc. It may have
> worked in the past, but it's time HAS past. There's too many regulations
> and too many hostile bozos out there to not have a comprehensive security
> management tool as part of the VM hypervisor suite. If that means we all
> have to suffer under RACF for long enough to turn it off, then so be it.
>
> >
>

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