Sherry,
Note that what I was referring to in my previous note and what Alan describes 
below are not the same thing.  You can do what Alan described, using the VM FTP 
server to serve the files.  You can also install from a VM minidisk without 
using any FTP server.  You can get the files on the minidisk by putting the DVD 
in your PC and using your terminal emulator to upload the files.  If you do 
that, it needs to be a 4500-cylinder minidisk.

                                                      Dennis

"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern 
men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. 
In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great 
difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the 
governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself." -- James Madison, 
in Federalist No. 51


-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:56
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] 2nd level z/VM 5.4 installation

On Thursday, 02/17/2011 at 02:37 EST, Sherry Everhart 
<severh...@maccnet.com> wrote:
> I need some clarification.  I'm trying to figure out how to use DVDs to
> install z/VM 5.4 under z/VM 5.2.  In Chapter 4, Plan Your DVD
> Installation, in the "Guide for Automated Installation and Service," 
under
> Installation methods, Second-level Installation, one of the User ID
> requirements is:
> 
> "If installing from a VM minidisk, access to a CMS-formatted minidisk 
that
> is the equivalent of at least 4500 3390 cylinders."
> 
> Our 3390-3 volumes have only 3,339 cylinders on them.  What am I missing
> here?

That is a bit confusing, isn't it?  It means that if you want to do an FTP 
install (annoyingly, yet understandably, documented as a subset of the DVD 
install) AND you want to use the VM FTP server, THEN you will need the 
equivalent of 4500 cylinders to contain the contents of the DVD.  If 
you're actually installing from some other FTP server, then you follow the 
3GB guideline.

Of course, you can always use SFS to hold the DVD contents (not a DVD .iso 
image!) since it aggregates multiple minidisks into a single filepool. 
Follow the instructions for uploading the DVD contents via FTP, but CD 
VMSYSU:MAINT.VM54  (for example, assuming you have done all the SFS admin 
things needed to make that happen.)

It's often hard to ferret out whether "DVD" refers to the physical media, 
the DVD contents, or the HMC Load from DVD/FTP-related functions.  But 
it's easy once you know how!  :-)

Reader's Comment Forms are always welcomed.  (E-mail your comments to 
mhvr...@us.ibm.com)

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

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