On Tuesday, 03/15/2011 at 06:59 EDT, Kris Buelens <kris.buel...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> I've got a customer that performed a DRP test last weekend.  The disks 
at the 
> DRP site are EMC, and he uses Snapshot plus PAV.
> 
> The customer told me that in Jan 2010, EMC told him to define most disks 
as 
> unsupported, like this:
> 
>    RDEV 5126-513B TY UNSUP DEVCL DASD DPS Y RESERVE_REL Y     
> 
> But, at IPL, I already get lost of these:
>    HCPIIO6861I Device 5186 cannot be varied online because it is an 
alias 
> Parallel Access Volume for which the base could not be located.
> I found out that these messages appear for disks whose base address is 
defined 
> as unsupported.
> 
> That's not that bad, but in addition, the customer want to define quite 
some 
> disks as MDISK DEVNO so they can be shared between the z/OS guests.  
Like this
>  MDISK 5809 3390 DEVNO 5809 MWV
> This makes we get lots of 
>   HCPLNM117E Userid xxxxxx not linked; volid conflict 
> We get these messages for the disks that are defined defined as 
Unsupported.
> 
> I understand perfectly well that it is impossible to define an MDISK on 
an 
> unsupported device.  But, the customer replied me that EMC told them to 
work 
> this way.
> 
> My question: is it really required to define the disks that are 
candidate as 
> Snapshot target as unsupported.  Or is there another reason to do it?
> (my customer doesn't remember exactly why, but he told me that the EMC 
guys 
> giving him that advice didn't seem to know much about z/VM)

I did some more research.   z/VM was updated some time ago to deal with 
the unusual mix of 3880/3990/2107/2105 controller functionality on EMC 
devices.
But EMC TimeFinder/Snap, remains proprietary EMC technology that z/VM does 
not support for minidisks.

My only recommendation for sharing is to use the technique described on p. 
85 of the IOCP book (-08 level):
  When you are running VM with guest operating systems, you can use 
multiple
  CNTLUNIT statements for a single physical control unit in certain
  environments to effectively dedicate the same physical devices to more
  than one guest. This technique involves potential path-grouping 
considerations
  that create operational complications. Ensure you have determined 
possible
  consequences and that you use caution if employing this technique.

If EMC told the customer that they can create MDISKs (DEVNO or otherwise) 
on TYPE UNSUPPORTED dasd, they were wrong. 

BTW, "Snapshot" is a function in the IBM RAMAC Virtual Array (RVA)

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
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