My opinion of this is:

1) it should support all of the components of z/VM and not just CP.
2) it should be part of the SERVICE command, or at least part of VM/SES.

I do like the approach LE takes, being able to see what service is for any given module.

DJ

On 4/11/2011 10:54 AM, Schuh, Richard wrote:
That would be nice. It ought to also have a way to answer Marcy's question, "Has PTF 
xxx been applied to the system (or, perhaps, to a specified module)?" without having 
to wade through a list of the universe of PTFs. As long as we are dreaming, it would be 
nice to have a defined interface so that we could interrogate cooperative ISV 
modifications to CP (VSSI, CA, et. al.) via the same command.

Regards,
Richard Schuh



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 3:28 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Sevice level

What I would like:

1) a flag for the output of Q CPLEVEL that indicates that
additional service beyond the displayed level has been
applied. Something like 8801++.

Applying the next RSU would reset the flag until the next PTF
outside the RSU is applied.

2) a new option to SERVICE that does the VMFSIM magic to list
all PTFS applied to a component. Example:

SERVICE LIST CP

Resulting in something like:

RSU 8801
PTF xxxxxxxxc
PTF yyygyygyy
Etc

I think that would help non-SES wizards to understand without
breaking  the older method.




On Apr 9, 2011, at 20:06, "Alan Altmark"
<alan_altm...@us.ibm.com>  wrote:

Following up on Nick Harris' expectation to see a change to QUERY
CPLEVEL after applying COR service to CP, I'd like to open a
discussion on how folks perceive service levels.  That is, is there
some way that you feel IBM should express the concept of
'service level'?

For the sake of discussion, let us assert that:
- We are talking about the running entity, not the copy of
the entity
on the build disk.
- Unless there are specific pre-reqs or co-reqs, PTFs can
be applied
in any order or combination.
- Each component (CP, CMS, DIRMAINT, RACF, SES, etc.) has its own
service stream

Regards,
      Alan

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