Hi Scott,

Yes they are the same, same VM levels, same basic setup for all VM's and IP stacks. In one case, our local IP stack, even uses the same osa device. In one LPAR it produces just one record per minute, in the second LPAR it produces three records.

And only one virtual CPU. But for these records CPU is not an issue.

Regards, Berry.

Op 09-06-11 21:38, Scott Rohling schreef:
Hmmm..   some questions then:

-  Are the z/VM and TCPIP levels all the same?
- Are the OSA's attached to TCPIP the same way (DEDICATE in directory, via a DTCPARMS, or?)
-  Are the OSA cards the same..  defined the same?
- Any NICDEF's defined to TCPIP on this LPAR? (though I would think it would show as a different OSA <shrug>)
-  Could a different ports be being used on the same OSA?

You've likely thought of this stuff already - just thinking of stuff I would check. Can't think of any reason offhand. Well - maybe one: does TCPIP on this LPAR have 2 virtual CPU's defined? Seems like the number of CPU's can influence, but I'm probably thinking of accounting records..

Scott Rohling

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen <berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl <mailto:berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:

    Hi Scott,

    Yes, the records are identical. After a SORT UNIQUE the duplicate
    records are discarded. The only thing that is not identical is the
    TOD field. The second (and third) record are produced a few
    miliseconds after the first. When I discard the miliseconds the
    records themselves are truly identical. That leads me to believe
    that these are seperatly created records.

    The record produced by the TCPIP stack contains data from the OSA
    device, we are interested in the number of bytes in and out for
    the device during the minute interval.

    As I understand it there is a buffer for each device. So the OSA
    devices each have a record and the CTC devices also have a record.
    And indeed that is what we get on other LPARs. Only on this
    particular LPAR we have more than one record. And only for the
    OSA's, not for the CTC's.

    Regards, Berry.

    Op 09-06-11 16:51, Scott Rohling schreef:

        Just poking around found this description of the monitor record:

        DESCRIPTIVE NAME - Monitor Sample Record
                            Domain 10 - Appldata domain
                            Record 2  - Application Data Sample Record
         DESCRIPTION - Application data as found in the
        application-defined
                       buffer at the time of this sample interval. A
                       separate record is generated for each buffer
                       declared by the virtual machine(s) via the Diagnose
                       'DC' START operation.
        Seems to imply a separate record is generated for each buffer
        declared..  I'm not sure what the application data sample is
        in this case.  Are the records truly duplicates?  (the whole
record is absolutely identical, displayable chars or not) Perhaps the application data needs to be appended to come up
        with the entire field?
        Scott Rohling

        On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen
        <berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl
        <mailto:berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl>
        <mailto:berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl
        <mailto:berry.vansleeu...@xs4all.nl>>> wrote:

           Hi listers,

           I am looking at processing the userrecords in the CP
        MONITOR for
           the TCPIP
           stacks. These are in CP MONITOR domain 0A record 02. The
        data is
           collected
           though a STARMON stage, basically "PIPE STARMON | locate
        <selection> | >
           fielid".

           Most LPARs have records like I'd expect them but I have
        found that
           in one
           LPAR we have duplicate records for subrecordtype 05 for each of
           the the OSA
           devices.

           The CTC's for VSE systems have one record per minute for
        each VSE
           system.
           The OSA links have 2 identical records (apart from a slight
           difference in
           timestamp, a few miliseconds apart). A second IP stack even
        writes
           3 records
           for every minute.

           So basically we see:
           00:01 VSE1
           00:01 VSE2
           00:01 OSA1
           00:01 OSA2
           00:01 OSA1
           00:01 OSA2
           00:02 ...

           What can cause the CP monitor to have these duplicate records?

           TIA, Berry.



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