Yes, I meant that you still need to format those allocated as PAGE (or any
non PERM type)..   I'm used to seeing full volumes so said 1-END..
Personally - I prefer to format/allocate in one step  (single cpfmtxa
format/allocate)

Scott Rohling

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, <gclo...@br.ibm.com> wrote:

> Hi.
> No need, 0-END (or 1-END) is not mandatory.
> You can use only pieces of dasd for each type, but  all referenced in alloc
> map, not PERM type, MUST be formatted. If  not, you get the paging errors.
> To make a one-pack VM, have the VMRES mdisks, some cylinders for page and
> some for spool. The minimum needed to get CMS running. All in the same pack.
>
>
> PS. And is possible (not practical) to start with an empty SPOOL:
>
>    1. Restore VMRES,
>    2. format page/spool,
>    3. IPL VM,
>    4. logon MAINT (IPL 190),
>    5. create the segments and all the other SDFs (or restore them from one
>    tape).
>    6. Followed by a new IPL.
>
> I saw people working this way ( I help them) in the past.
> Personally, nowaday this way looks more an academic POC than a valid DR
> exercise...
> ______________________________________________
> Clovis
>
>
>  From:
> Scott Rohling <scott.rohl...@gmail.com>
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 09/08/2011 14:19 Subject: Re: z/vm page
> packs at DR Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <
> IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> ------------------------------
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>
>
> Don't you still need to format 1-END?   In my experience, you can end up
> with paging errors if the dasd isn't initialized/formatted.  Haven't tried
> just cylinder 0 though, so I could be wrong..
>
> Scott Rohling
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Gentry, Steve <*
> steve.gen...@westernsouthernlife.com*<steve.gen...@westernsouthernlife.com>>
> wrote:
>
> We backup cyl 0 (zero) of the page packs just to avoid having to run ICKDSF
> to put a label on the packs.  We then, of course, restore that cyl 0 at DR.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:*IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU*<IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>]
> *On Behalf Of *Crabtree, Anne D*
> Sent:* Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:03 AM
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> *
> To:* *IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU* <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
> *Subject:* z/vm page packs at DR
>
>
>
> I currently back up all my z/vm packs (res,page,spool)  via an adrdssu job
> on z/os each Sunday.  At the DR site, I run an adrdssu restore job for these
> packs.
>
> This method works fine, however, I’m wondering if backing up the page packs
> is necessary?  I was thinking that maybe I could backup only 1 page pack so
> that I can get z/vm up and then just init the remaining packs after coming
> up.  Since the page packs are listed as cpvols in system config, would z/vm
> even come up if it couldn’t find all of them?  Seems like a waste of time to
> back them up…
>
>
>
> At DR site, we bring up a z/os “rescue” system in order to run restore jobs
> for both z/os and z/vm volumes.  Afterwards, our z/vm and z/os systems run
> as second level guests.  Maybe I need a “rescue” z/vm system as well?
>
>
>
> Just wondering what everyone else does.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Anne D. Crabtree
>
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>
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