Hi Joe,

According to my limited knowlege and experience, it's better to use a dedicated 
spinny halyard outside the forestay.  That way, the asymm can get out in front 
of the boat and rotate in front of the bow,  similar to a spinnaker.   The 
performance of the spinny really requires that you get it out in forward of the 
bow.  The further forward of the mainsail the better it is for sailing deep 
angles. 

AFter you hoist the spinny halyard, you launch the spinny by hauling the sock 
up.  The control line for my North Sails sock is a continuous loop  which is 
integrated right into the sock .    You'll need a cleat somewhere on the mast 
to fasten the sock uphaul.  The tack line and spinny sheets are preattached and 
sucked up inside the sock with the spinny; they stick out the bottom of the 
sock.

The real question, in my mind, is do you "inside" or "outside" gybes?  In an 
outside gybe, the clew of the spinny flies out in front of the forstay, and is 
pulled around the "outside".    The lazy sheet travels from the clew of the 
spinny, foward of the forestay (around the outside) and then aft to the 
cockpit.  Some folks argue that it's easier to do outside gybes when the wind 
is strong.  I'm not convinced, for reasons I'll explain below.

I prefer to do "inside gybes".  In this case the clew of the spinny is gybed by 
pulling it infront of the spinny, but aft of the forestay.  The lazy sheet is 
lead between the tack line and the forestay.  It takes a little better 
timing to gybe this way, but it has some real advantages.  We have learned to 
do insede gybes on our Potter 19 and Catalina 27 which don't have sprit poles, 
as well on sprit boats like the J80 and J105.  It's really not hard once you 
get the hang of it. 

The disadvantage of doing outside gybes is that the lazy sheet is in front of 
the forestay and can fall down underneath the bow of the boat.  It can get 
stuck there.      You have to keep an eye on it all the time.    If you don't 
notice it, you can even wrap it around the prop (Been there, done that... the 
first time I ever flew the A-spinny on the C27....  Make sure you "lock" your 
prop in forward so it's not freewheeling when you're doing spinnaker gybes).

(Here are pictures from our second day using the asymm.  We were doing outside 
gybes.  You can see my friend Jerry sitting on the foredeck, keeping a close 
eye on the lazysheet. It keep falling down, even though we had a gadget to keep 
it from falling.  
http://blumhorst.com/catalina27/asymmetric20030119.htm )


Rigging for the inside gybe virtually eliminated the problem of dropping a lazy 
sheet under the boat.  And don' tthink that you need a long pole sprit like you 
see on newer sport boats to inside gybes..  Here's a link to how to do it.  

http://na1.northsails.com/Cruising_Sails/SolutionsInsideGybesFeb2005.htm

Finally,  I think you probably could put a spinny crane on with out dropping 
the mast, but I havent given it much thought.   I didn't do it that way.  You'd 
have to work out all the safety issures around removing the stays and halyard 
pins.  It would be easier and safer to do it from a crane, rather than hauling 
yourself up the mast in a bosun's chair, that's for sure!

One last thing: I don't like the design of the spinny crane sold by Catalina 
Direct.  The block can get stuck on the wrong side of the bail when we're all 
done sailing and I'm trying to tidy up at the mast.   If I could do it over 
again, I would weld something to keep the block centered on the bail before 
installing the crane. 


 



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From: Joe McCary <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 9:18:22 PM
Subject: Spinnaker Crane Question WAS RE: [IC27A] Re: Boom Height





Judith, thanks for posting the images.  I have an unrelated question. I notice 
in your top of the mast photo there is a spinnaker crane.  I have recently 
acquired a used Asym-spinnaker.  From what I have read this can be flown either 
outside the forestay or inside.  If it is inside you can use the Jib Halyard or 
a second forward halyard, if flown outside you would need a crane.  This poses 
2 questions for me. First which is "better" or which is easier to fly? And the 
second question is IF outside the forestay is the answer and I would need a 
crane, can the crane be installed with the mast in the up position or will it 
require lowering the mast?  I will also need to install the controls for a 
spinnaker sock (Up haul and Down haul) and what size line is needed for that?
 
Joe McCary
Aeolus II, West River, MD
joe at photoresponse dot com
 
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Judith Blumhorst, DC
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To: ic...@yahoogroups. com
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Hi Brandon, 
 
...  See the attached pictures of my tall rig mast, showing the top and  bottom 
black bands
old-mast-&-new_boom2.JPG

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