I like this option myself. However, keep in mind that a similar kit sold by 
"cruising concepts", has the disclaimer that the windows are not offshore 
proven//leroy



--- In [email protected], ivan <deweyweeken...@...> wrote:
>
> I was looking into this earlier and some popular opinions have been to buy 
> acrylic or polycarbonate and have them cut 1/2" larger than your current 
> frames, drill holes about every four inches in them and then through bolt 
> them over the existing hole.  And instead of using 5200 or any other caulk 
> they butyl tape which is used for installing windshields and back windows on 
> cars (exposed to the same weather as our boats) and the people who went that 
> route say it is leak proof and better looking than with the frames.
> 
> Attached is a letter on a catalina 25 website that they got from a catalina 
> 27 owner...
> 
> Good Luck,
> -Ivan
> s/v Blow Me II
> Baltimore Harbor, MD
> 
> Taken from an e-mail message written by Don Desse (Catalina 27 Owner)
> Gary,
> Another way to seal the windows is to use butyl tape (butyl tape is available 
> at
> an auto glass replacement shop; locally, a 3/8 inch x 10 foot roll was 
> $11.00).
> This is the material used to replace car windshields. It is an excellent
> adhesive, it remains pliable, and it seals very effectively (you don't see too
> many car windows leaking and they are exposed to all sorts of weather). The
> butyl tape idea appeared on this list some time ago.
> The problem I had with caulk was getting the window back into the opening. My
> windows fit snugly into the opening. Unfortunately, trying to fit the windows
> into their opening resulted in my getting caulk all over everything. I cleaned
> up the caulk, but (alas) ended up with parts of the windows that were not
> properly caulked (that is, there were voids through which water "poured" into
> the boat). I redid the caulking job this year, using butyl tape. I was not
> happy (major understatement) at having to redo the windows, but I had serious
> leaking and I was installing new cushions and carpeting. So I bit the bullet,
> ripped out the windows, followed the prep procedures you outlined, but used
> butyl tape rather than caulk. The procedure was to apply the butyl tape around
> the window frame. (The tape comes in a roll of round "tape" that is coiled up
> with wax paper separating the coils.) I then inserted the window into the
> opening, and tightened the screws to their final setting (you do not have to
> worry about a "setting up" interval, as butyl tape does not set). I used a 
> razor
> blade to carefully trim off any tape that had oozed out from around the frame.
> I have found that the butyl tape works GREAT - it is easy to use, and there 
> has
> been no subsequent leaking. Considering that I've had car windshields replaced
> and they have never leaked, I am confident that the butyl tape will be
> watertight.
> To whoever posted the original idea about butyl tape: THANKS!
> Regards,
> ******
> Don Deese
> 
> --- On Mon, 12/7/09, Mark Robertson <mrobert...@...> wrote:
> 
> From: Mark Robertson <mrobert...@...>
> Subject: RE: [IC27A] leaking windows
> To: '[email protected]'
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 3:57 PM
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>       Keith do you have some pictures? I love show and tell. My boat has blue 
> stripes as well.
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> >>> "Sneddon, Keith - ES/IS" <keith.sneddon@ itt.com> 12/7/2009 9:48 AM >>>
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> 
> I had my frames sanded, metal worked, and painted Navy Blue (same as the trim 
> on the boat). A good marine painter or an auto body shop should be able to 
> handle this. We used good quality marine mono-epoxy paint (I don't remember 
> exactly what). The frames now disappear visually, and combine with the glass 
> (which has a significant tint). The look is much cleaner and more modern, and 
> the freshly painted surface adheres well to the sealant.
> 
> 
> 
> Keith Sneddon
> 
> #4760, "Are We There Yet?"
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> From: ic...@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ic...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of 
> TimothyN
> 
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:08 AM
> 
> To: ic...@yahoogroups. com
> 
> Subject: [IC27A] leaking windows
> 
> 
> 
> I have a 71 catalina 27. I had a problem with leaky windows, so I decided to
> 
> try the reseal kit from catalina. Unfortunately, I seem to have made the
> 
> problem worse. I bent the aluminum frames a little as I was removing them. I
> 
> thought I pounded them back into shape and caulked them well (maybe not).
> 
> 
> 
> At the end of the day, my GF says she never liked the way they looked anyway,
> 
> and I would hate to go through this repair again to find that I still didn't
> 
> solve the problem. Therefore, we are looking for other options.
> 
> 
> 
> I didn't see anything on the catalina site. Can you get new window frames from
> 
> catalina?
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> I did find another company listing retrofit windows for catalina
> 
> (http://www.cruising concepts. com/retroftwin. htm). Does anyone have any
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> experience with cruising concepts?
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> Other ideas? Other vendors?
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> Thanks.
> 
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