Herb,

How do lift the OB up on the rail?  Do lift it yourself or use a bridle and 
block and tackle.  I have a 5 HP Nissan and its a little too much to handle 
from an unstable dinghy to the stern pulpit.

I usually leave the motor on.  We don't have of waves or chop on the river.  
When one of those 50 or 60 ft houseboats goes by at hull speed I just turn 
directly into the wake.
 
Thanks,

John Emmerich
C27 TR
Louisville, KY

----- Original Message -----
From: Herb Clark <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Dinghy
To: [email protected]

> I sure appreciate your 'engineer's' approach to solving 
> problems  
> Phil.  We usually tow our inflatable dinghy up close to the 
> stern of  
> our Catalina 270 with a bridle.  I pull the nose up  
> high so only the  
> rear pontoon tubes and a bit of the rear floor are in the 
> water.   
> This makes for reduced drag.  I think I tested it with the 
> knot meter  
> showing around a .1 knts drop, something I can live with.  
> I usually  
> remove my 2.5 hp 4 cycle Susuki outboard and put it on the 
> stern  
> rail.  Last thing I need is for some power boat's wake to 
> flip my  
> dinghy with the outboard on it!
> 
> If I expect heavy weather, I deflate the dink, put the cover on, 
> and  
> stow it below.  We also carry one, and sometimes two kayaks 
> between  
> our shrouds and life lines.  I made two kayak out board 
> holders from  
> 1" copper pipe for my Catalina 25 a number of years ago.  
> The kayak  
> racks slip over the stanchions.  This summer, I will borrow 
> one set  
> for use on the Cat. 270  so we can move one kayak to the 
> out board  
> rack when needing a clear deck to facilitate docking.  
> Another trick  
> I have employed during rain, is to put the dink upside down on 
> the  
> bow.  This keeps it from filling with water and needing to 
> get in an  
> pump the water out the next day.  It also covers the front 
> hatch so  
> it can be opened during rain to promote air circulation.
> 
> Another trick I employed with my Catalina 25, when towing my 
> Fatty  
> Knees hard shell dink, was putting snap shackles at my bow 
> pulpit so  
> I could release my forward life lines easily.  This allowed 
> me to  
> drop the life lines quickly,  pull the dink up on the bow, 
> and lash  
> it down while underway.  I was younger then and 
> stronger.  Now, I  
> might need to use a lifting bridle and a halyard to help hoist 
> it.   
> It's why I know prefer my kayak over the Fatty Knees, and use 
> the  
> inflatable when visiting other boats or making a trip to shore 
> for  
> supplies.
> 
> We leave June 15th for Desolation Sound and the Discovery 
> Islands in  
> British Columbia.  I will have a better idea of how the 
> above  
> suggestions work when we are finished.
> Cheers!
> 
> Herb Clark
> [email protected]
> 
> Chico Yacht Club
> s/v Imagine - Catalina 270
> s/v Hotel Charlie - Catalina 25'
> d/s Coyote - Coronado 15'
> 
> "Why sail a blow when I can tow?"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Phil Agur wrote:
> 
> >
> > A spinnaker halyard in good condition would be the same as the 
> main  
> > and you’d lift a main up the mast or hoist the engine 
> and  
> > transmission out with it. I didn’t double check but it’s a 
> 1200 to  
> > 1500 lbs SWL line with an excess of a 4000 lbs breaking strength.
> >
> >
> >
> > The tricky part is how do you make it so simple to raise 
> that  
> > you’ll tackle it ever time without question.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would suggest a clip on 3 point bridle to a single ring. 
> Then  
> > attached to the ring I would clip on my man overboard 4:1 
> tackle  
> > and attach it to the horse bit* looking device I use in 
> hoisting  
> > the mast. Then clip that in the whisker pole and lift with 
> the  
> > halyard. What this should do for you is give you a 12 foot arm 
> to  
> > reach out past the beam of the boat to the center of the 
> dingy. How  
> > far out you reach is controlled by the angle of the whisker 
> pole.  
> > We carry our vertical on the front of the mast so it’s 
> always  
> > there. That makes straight up 6 inches and out flat 12 feet. 
> When  
> > you start the lift you raise the pole tip and she’ll come 
> inboard.  
> > When the distance away from the mast is about 6 feet you swing 
> it  
> > aboard and lower with the 4:1 tackle and it should remain 
> centered  
> > in the foredeck. Unclip one of the bridle connections and it 
> will  
> > help you flip it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Phil 
> Agur                    s/v Wing Tip
> > C270 LE 
> #184            MMSI 366901790
> >
> >
> > *The horse bit device is just two vang bails with a bolt 
> through  
> > the center I latch in the spinnaker pole end so the pole only 
> sees  
> > a compression load and the vang bails carry the lifting 
> force  
> > around the pole fitting.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On  
> > Behalf Of mkeller23173
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:46 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [IC27A] Re: Dinghy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the responses.
> >
> > I think I will try heaving it up on the foredeck this 
> afternoon  
> > when I get out there. See if it fits when inflated.
> >
> > How many pounds do you all think a spinnaker halyard is good 
> to lift?
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Derek Atkin <atkin...@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is a shot of my Achilles on the foredeck.
> > >
> > > http://www.opus45.com/c27_pics/DSCN3827.jpg
> > >
> > > My plan was to get a sunbrella cover made for it - so that 
> people  
> > could sit/lay on it when not in use.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "captain...@..." <captain...@...>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 12:06:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Dinghy
> > >
> > >
> > > I travel with my dingy deflated and covered on the foredeck. 
> When I
> > > arrive at an anchorage I inflate it and use my whisker pole 
> to  
> > crane it
> > > overboard. I toe it on short hops to new coves, but for 
> longer  
> > passages, I
> > > crane it aboard and overturn it on the foredeck.
> > >
> > > David Hoyt
> > > Sovereignty
> > > Catalina 27 #65
> > > ahsovereignty. com
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/2/2010 7:01:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > mkel...@michaelkell er.org writes:
> > >
> > > >Hey folks,
> > > >
> > > >Looking for some creative dinghy transport solutions for
> > > > our C270. We sailed to Oxford, MD this weekend with our 
> 7'6"  
> > dinghy deflated
> > > > on deck. Once at anchor, I dragged it to the stern and 
> blew it  
> > up. It worked
> > > > ok, but was not the smoothest solution. And forget 
> about  
> > getting it back up on
> > > > deck (it sat forward of the companionway on the trip over) 
> it's  
> > too heavy to
> > > > heave back up there. So it ended up being deflated and not-
> so- 
> > elegantly tied
> > > > to the stern, but that was roughly a 50 minute process
> > > >
> > > >I don't want to
> > > > drag it, my guess is we'll loose 1 to 1.5 knots. 
> Don't  
> > particularly want
> > > > davits as the boat budget has been blown on the autopilot 
> this  
> > year and I feel
> > > > that might be overkill for our 27 foot boat.
> > > >
> > > >I know there's only so
> > > > many ways to bring a dinghy with you, but aside from 
> deflating  
> > it or davits,
> > > > am I missing some creative solution?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >C270 -
> > > > Detente - #313
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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