>>> All horses jump, to some extent, but if he was talking competitive or
excelling at jumping, he's probably right.

Let's step back and think about this for a minute.  If you are talking about
adult hunters, then no.  I think adults over 18 (or over 21?) are prohibited
from showing ponies over 14.2H.  I could be wrong, but that's what I
remember - but maybe it's changed...

If you are talking about Grand Prix jumpers - gee, who cares?   Those folks
are crazy if you ask me, jumping 6-foot-plus fences on tight turns!  Not
many people that I know want to do that anyway, so why on earth promote
short stocky Icelandics for such an elite sport?  (But, then if these are
the same folks talking about Icelandic's running at 35-40 mph...well, I
guess some folks live in a world of hyperbole, but that's not my world.)

But, if you are talking about children's hunters, or little open jumper or
hunter classes at the little local shows, then about any horse/pony can
enter those.  It doesn't mean that all who can show successfully locally are
"A" show prospects, but there are a fair number of horses in this area that
spend some time doing that job.

In that realm, can Icelandic's do ok?  Well, first of all, you don't look at
the BREED, you look at the individual horses, one by one.  Arabs weren't
reputed to be the best hunters - you theoretically want a TB-type - but our
little "inferior" Arab, Thunder, was a wonderful hunter pony.  Emily just
started taking basic riding lessons on him, and one thing lead to another -
one little community show, then a little low-key hunter show...then the
bigger regional hunter show circuit...by that time, she switched to
dressage, but they were still winning a fair percentage of the time.

In retrospect, I only WISH we could have gotten her a Falki-type horse,
instead of Thunder.  Sure, Thunder was flashy and once he settled, he was
great...but getting there was not without a few scares.  A Falki-horse might
not have had the flash of Thunder, but, he wouldn't have given us the gray
hair that Thunder did while he was still a "hot" Arab.   In the kid's hunter
and jumper world, a good percentage of parents put a value on SAFETY over
flash.  Many times, a good solid dependable "packer" will be practically as
expensive as one with higher winning potential.  Not many parents want to
see their kids get hurt - not in the kid's show circuits I encountered

Most horses that show in kid's hunter classes to this level only have to
jump to 2-feet-to-2.5-feet, until the kids are about twelve.  Even adult
hunters only jump to about 3.5-feet, I think.   The lower level jumpers jump
a little higher, but still nothing like 4-5-feet!   MOST reasonably soundly
built horses and ponies can jump to 2-3-feet - as long as they aren't run
into the ground, jumping over and over again.  (That's where moms and
instructors come in, setting limits on how much the kids jump, so the horses
don't get sour.)

Now, how many Icelandic's could conceivably show in that environment?  Here
on our farm, I think most of mine could.  It's not about how HIGH the horses
can jump most of the time...it's about how sensibly, safely and soundly they
can do it.  A lot of the kid's hunters we encountered were also trail
horses, backyard pets, and maybe even shared with siblings or parents.  Now,
what breed can fill that bill better than an Icelandic...in general...?

>>> They don't have the hind end conformation that makes a really good
jumper.   And some aren't able to bascule very well; hence they are not
*known* as jumpers.

SOME don't.  But, Falki does.  Sina does.  Tivar does.  Reddi - absolutely.
I haven't seen a pony that can bascule better than Sina.  Eitill has the
rear end, but he would have to work on his canter and/or trot...same with
Skjoni.   Flekka?  She usually doesn't have the energy, but if she keeps the
spunk from yesterday, then absolutely!  Trausti - maybe.  Thunder wasn't
from a breed "known" to produce hunters, but he certainly made a fine one.

Look at the horse, not the breed, but speaking as a mom who looked at MANY
hunter prospects, yes, there are certainly some viable pony hunter prospects
in this breed.   Maybe not so many "A" show prospects, but who cares?  Most
owners that I know aren't looking for horses that run at 35-40 mph, or that
jump over 4-feet, so if the promoters (the self-appointed "breed
ambassadors") would stay in the "real world", this breed might be better
served.

Karen Thomas
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