>>>> Judy's note questioning Vicka about the horses at Gudmar's barn re
tolting at liberty, on a loose rein, and shoes was clear that she was
questioning him.

Now think about that a minute.  That's what Judy DOES, if you haven't
noticed.  She asks questions.  She also asks questions about current
dressage practices, some things that happen under the guise of "natural"
horsemanship...

If a trainer is good, then they will stand up to scrutiny.  It won't hurt to
ask questions - in fact, my faith will be strengthened in someone if I can
ask lots of questions and get good, substantial answers.  It's not the
questioning that's a problem - it shouldn't be.

>>> Perhaps some of us wouldn't be "defensive" if we didn't get pounced on
any time we offered our opinion or different point of view.

And maybe you wouldn't seem so defensive, if you chose to ask question or
make points on subjects other than Gudmar, and traditional stuff.

And please, give Judy credit.  She invited you to submit pictures of your
horse - from Gudmar - gaiting either at liberty or under saddle.  Maybe
Gudmar would be better served if you chose to offer positive proof that he
sells some good horses - whether on a regular basis or occasionally.   If
he's really a "new age" Icelander trainer, this is the very forum to show us
that...

BTW, one of the most impressive Icelandics I've ever met was one of the very
first I met - Anneliese's Valur.  She bought him from Gudmar's family.  I
have no idea if this is typical of the horses Gudmar sells, but I know
firsthand of one excellent horse his family trained and sold.  Now, past
that, it would be nice to know if he's doing this regularly, or if he just
happened to stumble on a good horse, because no one can draw conclusions
from one - or three - examples.  I say that not as a question for Gudmar
particularly, but because one of my most impressive horses (pre-Icelandics)
was owned by one of the most notorious (in a bad way) horse-traders in this
area before we bought him from the people we got him from.  That Joe is a
wonderful horse doesn't prove that the horse trader sold only wonderful
horses, but it did prove that he didn't sell only BAD horses...

Karen Thomas, NC


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