I have found in my LIMITED experience that some will work for one
horse but not another.  Traditional training does not seem to work
well for Fox, he feels "pressure" when I don't think I am applying it.
 He had a huge breakthru turnaround when I switched to CT.  Stonewall
was CTd as a baby and now seems almost to insist on it.  He reminds me
that I am supposed to click and reward...  he will respond to
traditional training but its a lot slower and grudging.  jaspar does
not respond at all to CT.  He was started the old cowboy cruel way and
then with me, a more NH way but still pressure/release advance/retreat
type stuff and he seems to still learn that way and be very easy to
train without CT or anything else really.  I am hesitant to try nasi
or Tivar with CT because they are so nippy and treat hounding and seem
to lose their freaking minds anytime they see a TREAT A TREAT OH MY
GOD A TREAT and forget everything else.  Interestingly, jaspar and the
donkey seem least responsive to CT and seem least food motivated.
They will both walk away from a feed bucket if they are full.
Traveller freaks out from too much pressure and if I were allowed to
train him I would CT, but he is my husbands horse and is "he who must
not ever have hurt feelings in any way" so he is a huge nice untrained
horse, lucky for us.

I have learned some things from clinton.  I like his flexing thing.  I
hate some of his stuff, like the chainsaw in the roundpen thing...
janice
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