> You know, some Icelandics bite, I just don't see the
> connection between it and clicker training, I know it might seem
> amazing, but sometimes even our *perfect* little Icelandics do bite,
> I think it's something that might be expected (not tolerated) from
> equines.


Nasi used to bite like a little mule (no offense :) but since he's
gelded he hasnt bit me!  But I did not get so much that Karen was
associating biting with ct I thought she was associating how sometimes
a ct horse can have behav probs.  I am lazy and to me unless you have
all the time in the world it is just easier to not ct unless you need
it, by that I mean if a horse doesnt respond to other training, wont
do what you want, cant see what you want etc.  Like with nasi, why go
to all the trouble of wearing a fanny pack and fumbling around with
the clicker and the treats if he is perfectly willing to walk up a
flight of stairs without all that.

As for brenna, you can be one of the top five iceys in the nation and
still be bad :)  Like they say on sesame street "even good kids do bad
things sometimes".  And even if she did something horrible she isnt a
bad horse.  Like my Stonewall.  So many lately have flat out said
"SELL HIM"  even my husband.  But he is not a bad horse.  He is a good
horse that does bad things sometimes :)  anyway he is another story.
I felt at the Liz clinic that Brenna, Kolur, Eitill and Skonji were
all just incredibly well behaved.  Eitill was a little scamp but
honestly I was most taken by him, by his scampiness.  I just love that
in a horse.  a personality to die for.  literally with stonewall it
seems.... sigh.  who among us has not had an issue to work thru.  And
if ct works hey more power to it, and if parelli works more power to
it.  I have read and tried some pretty cockamamie stuff that worked
incredible that I dont even bother telling people anymore they just
look at me like I am crazy but hey, if it works great.  And if what I
am doing hits a snag I will try anything.

But I do not believe one method works for all horses.

As for the cockamamie thing that no one believes...  I read this in a
horse magazine, a little blurb.  I had spent two years getting jaspar
where he would step up into a trailer willingly without fear.  Then a
friend called and asked if I would help her.  I tried everything I had
tried with jaspar.  We were using my old bee stinger trailer and her
horse was about the size of a clydesdale with feet the size of dinner
plates and he freaked out in there and got his head hung in the
divider, ripped it off the welds, sat down like a dog and busted the
butt bar off the hinges, I mean he was nuts.  So he would not get back
in a trailer for nothing.  So I said hey lets try this thing I read...
and we had him stepping into a trailer with a little nervousness but
no panic within ten minutes.  How?

HA, I will tell if you ask :)
Janice
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yipie tie yie yo

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