--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > Which one would you recommend for a hard mouth?  Lorraine
> 
> 
> Ray Hunt would say that if you can't stop your horse with bit, go
> to a 
> halter; and if you can't stop him in a halter, ride bridleless.
> 
> 
> Judy


I agree with that, however what Ray hunt can do, I certainly can not
do, and since I am not a professional and do other things in my life
besides ride and train, I will not ever be the rider he is...

That said, I think it is a process....if Sally had tried to hop on
Bylgia and retrain using a halter or a bit less, she probably would
have taken a few falls...not a fun thing, so she did it step by step,
and used the bit for a very short time, and then transitioned.

I find some horse professionals to be hard to listen to sometimes
when it comes to the horse and the riding capabilities of the
rider.....

When a rider is having issues with a horse, they almost always (they
meaning the 3 pro's that I am in contact here on this island) say the
rider just needs to relax, that horse is fine.  

And yes they horse might be fine, mabye for them, as a pro, but most
horse do not belong to professional riders.

I have found that sometimes the pros just do not listen to the issues
that the riders are having, and the pro wants to blame the rider,
because they are not confidant enough, or their seat needs work, and
all that may be true, but the horse and rider need to be matched
appropriately, period.  Without that good match, both are
frustrated.....

S. Lee

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