--- In [email protected], "Virginia Tupper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 

> > One thing to consider - many (most?) Icelandic's don't have sufficiently
> > long necks to "get on the bit", or at least with normally expected head
> > carriage, like say a TB, warmblood or some QH and Arabs are capable of
> > doing.
> 
> Gat has a short neck so I really can't imagine her getting on the bit
> like the other schooling horses, but, how could she get her back up
> without going into that frame?

Semantics, again...

No, not every horse can physically get its face right at the vertical and have 
its poll the 
highest point, but that's really the least of being "on the bit."  It might be 
more accurate to 
say you want your horse "on the aids", balanced and responsive to equal amounts 
(ideally  
almost imperceptibly light) of hand, seat and leg, with the back up, stepping 
under itself, 
using its pelvis and engaging (bending) all its joints relatively equally (i.e. 
not swinging 
stiffly from just the hip. but bending and using hocks and stifles).  It's 
really not all about 
the headset.  :)

Lateral suppling (correctly--i.e. maintaining a true, consistent bend and not 
allowing the 
shoulder to pop out, or the horse to fall in, etc.--riding circles and 
serpentines) will help 
with the longitudinal.  It will help her to develop the strength and suppleness 
needed to 
use her hind end and bring her back up (and yes, her head will end up going 
down as she 
uses the rest of herself correctly, although she might never physically be able 
to have the 
headset of a GP warmblood), and all this will help her W/T/C and by extension 
her tölt, 
too.  

It's so *not* about the head, or about cranking a horse into a particular 
shape.  As others 
have said, it's a gradual process, and yes, as she does build strength and 
suppleness she'll 
be able to work in a "frame" (ugh!) that is *biomechanically correct* for 
carrying a rider for 
progressively longer periods of time.  But it should be a *true* frame that 
arises out of 
correct work, not out of a pre-conceived notion of what the end product should 
look like.  

Slow, systematic, biomechanically correct conditioning and strengthening will 
help any 
riding horse of any conformation.  :)

/Roo in VT

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