--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> One thing is was the list of criteria she described
for a nicely moving horse...and one of those traits
was "forwardness."<<

So in regards to Stormur, are you saying he isn't
forward in the picture?  If you're not saying that,
why are you mentioning it?
 
>> And what is a symptom that the horse isn't yet
"forward"...?  His legs aren't coming up under him, or
may even be trailing out behind. <<

I don't get it?  You are describing probably the way
95% of all horses, gaited or not, travel.  What does
this have to do with Stormur who is pacing with at the
very least, a level back??
 
>> The position of the horse's head and neck should be
a symptom of the push from behind, the push towards
"forwardness"...That should come AFTER the push
though, not before....right?<<

I think the nit-pickyness is coming thru again. You
are speaking in terms of upper level dressage, not
normal pleasure horses.  Why can't you just admit that
Mary has a horse that travels lateral and is NOT
hollow????

>>take a look at the speed racker in picture "C" about
halfway down this page.
 http://gaitedhorses.net/Articles/Pace/Pace.shtml  <<

Sorry, no comparision when you have a naked horse
(Stormur) and a horse decked out with saddle and
rider.  I have not the foggiest notion what that
horse's back looks like compared to Stormur, and I
will not even hazard a guess.
 
>> I don't want my horses going in that frame for very
long at all.<<

Well, even if you rode your horses in a rack every
time you rode, I don't think it would be enough to
hurt them.  Besides, a natural rack is WAY different
than a forced frame rack.

This discussion with examples of extreme roundness is
no different that the "typical" style of Icelandic
riding to the other extreme.  And I am a middle of the
road person, not a person of either extreme.  I just
see it as argumentitive, or maybe I'm just in a
sensitive mood today.


Susan in NV   
  Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/



       
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