--- In [email protected], Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's a good idea, but having seen how much people can mess up 
babies
> even before they are weaned ("Oh it's just soooooo cuuuuute when he
> nibbles/kicks/rears up and puts his feet on my shoulders" - yuck) 
it's
> not infallible.
> 

I don't think this would fall under good horsemanship (ie, "correct" 
handling). I've never had a young one actually try to jump on me, 
does this really happen? Nibble, yes, I only have one who ever tries 
to do this now, 2 year old mare, I find that if I politely and 
softly push her head away from me, she stops. I let my horses come 
close to me and there are some rules, no biting, no kicking, even at 
other horses when I am around, no pushing. They can be taught to 
follow the rules, I've been around horses as long as I can remember 
(almost) and I think some of it comes naturally to me. I like being 
close with them, they can be very sweet and at the same time they 
follow directions and be safe riding horses. I actually let them 
touch me with their noses, they are taught what is appropriate, no 
biting, four out of five of them never try to bite at this point, 2 
of them have never even tried it in their lives, each of the other 3 
has given me at least one good bite each when I first started 
working with them, this behavior is natural in certain individuals 
and can be extinguished, and I still am able to let them close to 
me, and able to let them touch me with their noses, they are very 
smart, they get it. A couple of them like to put their heads on my 
shoulder and give me a horse hug, I love it. 

I just wanted to put another perspective out there, it seems like 
some people think that either horses are to be kept at a distance 
from us, in order to keep them from doing anything dangerous, or if 
we let them close, they will inevitably be out of control, no 
boundaries, dangerous for sure. We are getting awfully close to them 
when we are on their backs, you would think that you would want to 
trust them completely in any direction, before you go and get on 
their backs, if you think about it, being on their backs is a pretty 
precarious position. I don't really think horses are that dangerous, 
if you understand them, make friends with them, and set up a few 
rules, they are actually pretty easy to get along with, Icelandics 
even more so.

Kim



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