> > I think it may depend on the Icelandics that he's seen. If he's seen the > ones who have been subjected to tolt training, they may be shut down, a dull > eye, not too willing to give themselves to humans.
-this is not subjected to tolt training (it´s kind of funny to stated that) it´s just depends on what training the horse have had ,nothing to do with gait training. thoose horses that are stressed by nature and the trainer go to fast throu the training program will "shut down" to protect themself a typicall Icelandic thing. As a very green horse they often stand for farrier just because of stress as they are shut downed and then you get problems later and people just don´t understand why as the horse was so good in the start of the training for an example. >>> I've heard it said that Icelandics will turn >> their rump to you as a way of submission > I wonder where that came from; any idea? I haven't heard it, and it doesn't > make sense to me. Judy In round pen training the Icey´s is more sensetivive (ice breed)where you stand. I had a hard time with my Fafnir in the beginning as I tended to go to close and then he turned his but up instead of facing me , I had really to keep my self on the "middle spot" and he never did the "join up" thing,following me around. in everything I do in round pen with Fafnir I have to keep myself on the spot othervise I´m to close. (know 13 yo) and for my husbands Máni,that have never entered a round pen as my husband started Máni himself .My husband is all natural in horseman ship selflearned throu horses never read a book about it and never taken a clinic and I myself try to keep my mouth shut to not interfer. Máni & Ingvar has a ritual when ,Ingvar comes out with the briddle. He calls Máni a low dark voice -mánimánimáni and walk towards him ,then Máni start an circle around Ingvar often two rounds to the right and then 1 to the left and then stops in front of him a few meters away and turn his butt towards him and look at Ingvar over the left shoulder. then Ingvar put´s his hand slowly but firmly on Máni´s back (if put on the but he´s off) and walk along side him and then put the Briddle on. Me on the other hand ,Máni cirlces about 7 times around and I have to try not act as "Catch the animal" meaning I have to stand on the same spot watching Máni doin he´s circle´s and I have tried to use the same voice(much training there)...........this we sometimes has to repeat before I´m allowed to briddle him. can tell that Máni was started by Ingvar the winter Máni was turning 5 yo and Máni is today 17 and he´s a five gaiter with no tolt he foxtrot but my husband offcourse is totally uninteresting what gait it is or what you name it it´s soft and the horse goes forward ...... me on the other hand have tried one´s to ride Máni tolt and yes it works with a little more contact ,but why should I interfer with their companionship? Regards Malin In Iceland Rain and stormy wind´s !!
