--- In [email protected], "Wanda Lauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> But seriously, how long has Judy been providing information and stil 
the trolls come on to argue?

--------------------There will likely always be people who want to 
start an argument just to argue, no matter which list, or which 
information is being presented.  But even if it makes a difference to 
ONE person, then isn't it still worth it?  And I think sometimes what 
is seen as a "troll arguing" is actually someone who has very sincere 
questions about something.  In other words, maybe it's not an argument, 
but instead someone who really doesn't understand something and is 
asking for clarification in a not so clear way.  A lot of undertones 
can get lost in email.

> How do you capture someone's attention if they are determined not to 
listen?  How do you shock them and make them sit up and pay attention?

------------------A lot of times YOU don't.  That person may experience 
something on his own and then go seek information.  This list is great 
for providing that information.  But sometimes, just listening to other 
people's situations, what is working for them, seeing pictures of GOOD 
riding and pictures showing the GREAT bond between horse and rider will 
win over someone who is already thinking about going to a better 
method.  

> I've been learning things for years on Judy's lists and at no time 
did I feel alienated, disrespected, demeaned or undermined.  


------------------I have.  Many times over.  But I have persisted in 
asking for a better way to work with the horses I work with.  Even 
after being treated horribly on many occasions, I still come back.  And 
why?  Because I sincerely want to know more about building the 
relationship with Osp, how to keep her healthy all her life, and how to 
help others with these things.  I've put my pride aside on MANY 
occsions to help educate myself in order to help Osp and others.

> Stupid after the fact yes, and wishing I "knew then what I know now" 
type of thing....but still a better horse person for the experience..

--------------------Boy, isn't that the truth!  I think back to so many 
of the things I've done wrong over the years and thank the Lord every 
day that he has given such an incredible horse who is so capable of 
forgiving and forgetting past wrongs and helping to teach me a better 
way.  It just makes me want to help her and other horses all the more.  
And I know I still have a lot to learn - it's a never ending endeavor.  
What's so fascinating about horses is that there's always something 
that comes up that I haven't seen before and want information on how to 
best handle.  Having the lists to help out has been a tremendous help 
over the years.

Dawn Bruin-Slot, northern Michigan
Fuzzy Logic Equine

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