>>I think sometime dressage trainers need to learn to
>>"western" ride and just let the horse learn to go forward without a
>>"frame"  - dressage trainers usually want to immediately put their
>horse in a frame.


>>Laree in NC

I agree Laree. I think it's important for a newly started horse to learn to
balance itself with a rider, moving freely in all it's gaits before we try
to teach them to stay in a "frame".  Young horses held in by their faces and
boxed in with seat and legs often feel trapped and will rear, crow hop or
buck.  A lot of inexperienced people starting horses will ask them to move
forward, but if they do so briskly, will often get nervous and yank on them
to slow down.
Very confusing for the horse!

Cherie
Western North Carolina
Lilja, Roka (Icelandics)and Tyra (Fjord)


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