>>>> Last summer I went looking for an Icelandic horse for my husband. We
found a beautiful (aren't they all) 10-year-old gelding advertised as
perfect - trained, bombproof, and old enough to have the sillies out.

Hi, Gail.   Are you new to the list, or have you been lurking for a while?
I ask, because I don't know if you know that I'm one of the suckers on the
list.  I just got still another project horse last week.  These stories just
kill me.  Oh man...don't you just want to strangle some horse traders?  Your
poor horse.  Bad enough that he had these experiences, but to be
misrepresented as a safe and trained horse so that he might hurt someone is
just inexcusable.

>>> The story is absent malice - except for the evil trainer - full of
neglect and a clearly one of a horse in need of help.

Do you know if he was ignored in the pasture for the first three years,
before he was sold?  That seems to be the "Icelandic tradition" and frankly,
I think it stinks.   Some horses seem to do ok despite that early lack of
attention, but I'm seeing many who suffer the rest of their lives from lack
of trust in humans.  I have several horses here from the same family
(sisters, a brother, a couple of nieces), including two born here (and
handled from birth), and four others raised with varying degrees of the old
"leave 'em alone until they're four" attitude, and you can certainly tell
the difference.  The new Icelandic mare that I just got is 11, and probably
had the least handling/attention of any of these.  She doesn't seem spooky
AT ALL about "stuff" - leaves blowing, a fallen limb stuck in her tail,
tractors starting up, dogs or cats appearing from nowhere - but let a person
make a sudden move around her and she jumps like crazy.    She's getting
better already, but, gee, I wish someone had handled her as a baby.  I
really doubt she'll ever get over ALL of her wariness towards people.
Horses have tremendous memories.

>>> I hired the trainer at our boarding barn to help review classical basic
training. There are four of us who ride him and he has dumped all but one of
us in a panic. Mounting seems to hold some evil memories. Last week I
mounted him and he was fine until I had trouble with a stirrup and reached
down to adjust it. The boy panicked, spun around and took off leaving me on
the ground with a broken pelvis.

Well, it sounds like you've done a great job with him, but obviously he
still has demons haunting him.   A couple more questions - have you had his
back really checked well for pain?   (I don't trust every vet or
professional to do this well, although some are great.)  My first Icelandic
rehab was so stoic, he wouldn't flinch for a "normal" type back check...but
man, when the chiropractor first touched him with her more aggressive
pressure, I swear he lunged forward about 20 feet.  I then took him to a vet
who does acupuncture and traditional medicine (since his problems SEEMED to
be more soft-tissue related) and that vet recommended a
massage/acupressurist to get us started.  The vet said the horse had more
pent-up pain than any horse he'd ever seen, and he couldn't tell where to
begin checking him, and unless I wanted to spend thousands on a full body
checkup... After we saw some progress with the acupressurist, maybe just 3-4
sessions later, he advised us to return to the referring vet.   He horse had
loosened up enough for them to agree that the pain seemed to be originating
in two spots.  X-rays were negative for kissing spines around his withers,
so he injected his withers with steroids.  The horse has been physically
fine since.  He's gotten much better with his trust issues too - he always
wanted to trust people.

The second question: have you had him checked for ulcers?  I had one
Icelandic "problem horse" who had none of the "traditional" signs of
ulcers - he was in good weight, had a good appetite (boy is that an
understatement!), and his coat was healthy and shiny.  When all else checked
out well, the vet (the same one who helped me untangle the first gelding's
issues) suggested that we treat him for ulcers.  The horse would buck, was
reactive to pressure around his belly...and the real clue to me was that his
last owner told me he would always get worse after a session with a
trainer - he too had some unfortunate early training experiences.  (I think
his saving grace was that he had some loving handling from birth, so he had
some good associations with some people.)  Newer research is showing a
strong link between stressed horses (stressed from all sorts of causes) and
ulcers.   Gastrogard isn't cheap, but the good news is that a tube will
treat up to a 1400-pound horse.  My vet checked with the manufacturer, and
they said that it should be fine to give a 700-800 pound Icelandic a half
dose, so that cut my cost in half.  His reaction to some simple loving,
LOW-PRESSURE ground-work, along with the Gastrogard was amazing...

And, finally, what kind of saddle are you using on him?  Bit?  Other tack?
These guys can be some of the hardest of any horse to fit a saddle to, so if
he already has "demons" from memories or pain, then a poorly fitting saddle
may just put him over the edge.

It sounds like you have done a commendable job on winning back his trust in
humans, but if he also has pain issues, and humans inadvertently cause more
pain, there is a limit in how much trust you can regain.

My new saying about horses that are in this cycle is that, "they can
forgive, but they'll never forget."  That's why I think it's so important to
give the young horses a good foundation of trust from the time they are
born - they don't have to be over-handled and spoiled, but they certainly
should be handled in a loving way, so that they associate humans with good
things.   I know you can't turn back the clock with this gelding, but I hope
more breeders will stop that barbaric and neglectful way of non-handling of
the young ones.   When they lack those early, positive memories, bringing
them around after neglect/abuse is much harder.  These stories are just too
heart-breaking, and people in this breed need to work harder at stopping
these cycles from starting.

Good luck.  If you feel up to it, I hope you'll share more about what you
know about him.  This list is a great place to air these issues.  We may be
able to offer you some suggestions, and we can certainly offer you
encouragement and moral support...but mostly, more people need to hear the
stories about these horses.  Since I've taken in some rehabs, and have tried
to get a few more, I'm sure I've heard way more than most on this list have
heard.   These stories need to be discussed openly - if we can't help every
problem horse, maybe we can at least stop some of the cycles that create
them...


Karen Thomas, NC



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