i think hard to housebreak is a terrier thing!  I have had several and
they were all hard to housebreak.  Our blue heeler and austrailian
shepherd just housebroke theirselves.  They just seemed to naturally
want to go outside.  Ruby acts like she is too afraid to have me out
of her sight to go do her business so when I let her out i have to
stand there on the porch the whole time while she watches me like a
hawk to make sure i dont leave her.  She is ok if I dont leave her out
of her crate at night or when we arent home.  She never soils her
crate.  or the car.  When I go riding on cool days she comes along and
sleeps in the truck the whole time and has never had an accident in
there.

The best housebroken terrier I had was my westie Pearl. I went on a
long car trip across country with her when she was new to me, about 4
months old, and the car was so full of junk she had to sit in a tiny
little space and I would stop often to let her go.  By the end of the
trip she was perfectly housebroken,  so I learned from that the crate
method is best since its about the same principal.  but ruby would
rather have an accident by the front door than wake me up and take a
chance she might run outside and be swallowed up into the twilite zone
and never see me again.

Janice--
yipie tie yie yo

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