In a message dated 2/3/2008 6:01:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The females are usually about eighty to ninety pounds and the males are about one hundred ten to one twenty pounds this is an average. You might have a pup that has Gordon setter in her with those ears and fur. Did you say the mother dog had black and brown also? They are big dogs. Very pretty dogs also. I love the setter breeds they are beautiful. Lab is so dominant in any breed even rottweiler crosses with lab will give you a black dog. Sylvia
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