> If you're talking about a variable rate of reinforcement,

 Thanks Cherie, I knew somebody out there would know what I was referring 
to. . . I actually was thinking of you and wrote Trish's name instead! 
(Although I think Trish clicker trains as well).

>that is when once an animal knows a behavior pretty well, you vary the 
>number of times they have to do the behavior before clicking and 
>rewarding.<

I remember reading a discussion a couple of years ago -- can't remember 
where or what list -- where the folks posting were saying they use the 
variable method quite soon after introducing something new.   I just don't 
agree with that.  I can see phasing out the treats and phasing in a word of 
praise or a rub AFTER the horse has whatever you're teaching down pat.   But 
not before that stage.

> We noticed with the killer whales,

You've had some really neat training opportunities and experiences with so 
many different animals in your life, haven't you?!?.    Man -- killer 
whales. . . I'm so envious!  I can't imagine communing with such 
intelligent, manificent creatures and getting to work with them one-on-one.

> Once you click though, you should always reward.

That's what I think too.   That's the agreement or contract you have with 
the horse / animal.   Not to reward just seems like cheating them to me. 
Even if you are at the point where a food treat isn't necessary anymore, I 
still feel the acknowledgement and appreciation of the right answer needs to 
be there.
   I STILL reward all my horses for standing still for mounting because that 
is a pet peeve of mine when horses won't, and I'm just so darned grateful 
mine do stand.    Everytime they hold stock still and let me fuss around 
getting settled, I am as thrilled with them as the first time they did it. 
: )    And, even though my horses are set in gait and have been for some 
time,  I've been known to click and treat after a good run of gait --  again 
just because I feel very appreciative of their effort and I want them to 
know it.

-- Renee M. in Michigan

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