>>> At least  with Peruvians, what is highly desirable when gaiting -- ie., 
>>> enough reach with the back legs such it is stepping under the saddle 
>>> area and is capping or, even better, overstepping by up to 12 inches the 
>>> front hoof prints, really doesn't happen if the horse is  ventroflexed,


Oh, I betcha I could find some horses who can overstride with hollow backs! 
I'm thinking of one right now - of a non-gaited breed.  Sure, he can move 
better when he's not hollow, but overstride doesn't define collection.


Karen Thomas
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