>>> Many English saddles, older ones at least and some of the more modern 
>>> ones, DO have the stirrup bars further forward so the rider is 
>>> encouraged into a chair seat. Speak to Heather Moffett, Mary Wanless 
>>> etc - they will say the same.


It's getting off-topic to this discussion, but some of the 
"nouveau-dressage-purists" have pushed saddle-position to a whole 'nuther 
extreme if you ask me.  Some of the new (last 10 or so years) dressage 
saddles are SO deep-seated, with SUCH big knee rolls, and the stirrups set 
SO far back that the rider has no choice but sit on their crotch.   I say 
this is off-topic, because I don't think that's a problem with this 
breed...but I don't necessarily agree with what every "expert" calls a chair 
seat either.  I've heard some of these people accuse Linda Parelli of riding 
in a chair seat, and for the life of me, I can't see that at all.

To clarify, I DO think it's very common to see current generation Icelandic 
trainers and show riders in a chair seat though - maybe not quite as bad as 
a few years ago, but still in a chair seat nontheless.

In the case of rider position, in this case, I see room for a nice 
compromise in the middle - no crotch seats, but no chair seats either.

Karen Thomas, NC



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