I am so sorry for Vickie.  I agree with everybody about taking control
of the space; BUT I want to warn against kissing the face of all male
horses, except the very old and the ones who have demonstrated no
aggression for many years.  Mares may be candidates, but the bad
stories I know about have all been males.

Had a discussion about this with Harry Whitney some years ago when I
owned a "tuff guy" Qtr. horse he was helping me with.  I gave the
horse a quick and noisy kiss on the muzzle and Harry said "don't do
that with a horse like this he can misunderstand, he would never take
that move and sound from another horse."   The horse had bitten me on
the arm once, small pinch that really hurt.   Remember the
"mother-in-law face" that Pat Parelli suggests you give a horse to
show how displeased you are about what he just did.  I foolishly did
that in close quarters and the horse got my message then he tried but
missed taking my face off by about 2".  I can never forget the sight
of him coming at my face, and I know  Vickie will have those awful
images in addition to her pain for a long time.

But there was more to come.  He liked to move the other gelding that
he lived with around and the owner tried to get involved; she began
moving him off with a whip in hand and getting on his case about
nipping her horse or in his face about getting too close.  One day he
just lunged at her with mouth open wide -- got a hold of enough skin
just below her waist and lifted her up in the air and tossed her.  She
had put her arms up in front of her face when he lunged at her and her
shirt pulled up above her abdomen.   Took a year for the physical scar
to heal.

I do learn, sometimes.  I never make that kiss sound near any horse's
face I never make "bad" faces at horses (I think it is really silly);
I pat, scratch, coo, say kind words, tickle ears or just touch as
sensitively as I can -- no kissing.  Yet I see the kissing everywhere
all the time.  Women and children kiss muzzles of horses they have met
for the first time!   They get out of cars and hurry to fences to
entice horses to come and be petted and get kissed.  What is it with
us?  I'm sure the incidents of Icelandics taking faces off is
extremely low so maybe all of us Icey owners are safe.
Nancy in Sonoma


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