Bener..

Saya lagi liat file pdf oleh bro dimas.
*walau tulisannya gak kebaca jelas*

Semoga kelar secara winwin solution..

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-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Wiwiet <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:30:26 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: MOHON BANTUAN UNTUK JADI PENENGAH ANTARA SAYA DAN
 BRODIMAS.Fwd:[id-android] ASK : signal motorola xt720 sering hilang

Stop dulu disini deh..soalnya dah baca tadi ada email "tandingan"
Menghindari supaya ga berat sebelah dan membentuk opini yg salah.


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2011/4/29 Defriando Riza <[email protected]>

> Buat Bro Bayu & Dimas..
> Semoga bisa selesai hari ini dgn solusi yg enak buat kedua belah pihak,
> saya percaya bro bayu & Dimas punya niat baik, meskipun saya pribadi blm
> kenal kalian berdua tapi dari postingan dimilis sini dan milis sebelah
> (P*lm), sepertinya memang orang-orang baik..
>
> Semoga sukses ya ktemuannya.... ;)
>
>
> 2011/4/29 Bayu Seno Adji <[email protected]>
>
>> Siap Bro Tora.
>> Entar di Japri....
>>
>> #Masih ilfeel jualan gara-gara masalah ini :-(
>>
>> >>Bro bayu bisa porting winm7 ke droid ga? Mau donk htc winm7 saya...he3x.
>> Biar dual boot
>> Nanti kalo saya udah punya HHnya saya coba...
>> Masih mahal euy :-(
>> Kalo pinjem punya orang was-was kalo ngebrik HH
>>
>>
>> 2011/4/29 tora ganteng <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Ya wes....
>>>
>>> Beresin deh...kalo masih di tangan om bayu...tawarin aja japri!he3x.
>>> Tapi benerin dulu ke rom yg aman....he3x.
>>> Lumayan butuh video dan kameranya buat "oprek" foto anak...
>>>
>>> Bro bayu bisa porting winm7 ke droid ga? Mau donk htc winm7 saya...he3x.
>>> Biar dual boot
>>>
>>> bike2lah di jalan
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: * Bayu Seno Adji <[email protected]>
>>> *Sender: * [email protected]
>>> *Date: *Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:28:40 +0700
>>> *To: *<[email protected]>
>>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected]
>>> *Subject: *Re: MOHON BANTUAN UNTUK JADI PENENGAH ANTARA SAYA DAN BRO
>>> DIMAS.Fwd:[id-android] ASK : signal motorola xt720 sering hilang
>>>
>>> @mas tora:Oiya mas tora keduluan ya dulu.hehe....
>>> @all : makasih masukannya. Ini saya juga lagi nunggu bro dimas datang ke
>>> kantor saya.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bayu Seno Adji
>>> bayusenoadji.com
>>> rnbwebhosting.com
>>> Sent from Captivate CM7
>>> On 2011 4 29 12:24, "tora ganteng" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Nah...
>>> >
>>> > Ini cocok ama gue nih....
>>> >
>>> > Sebenernya ane minat tuh xt720, udah nanya2...tp keduluan..he3x.
>>> >
>>> > Kalau COD sih,kudunya udah kelar waktu pisah jalan. Kecuali didealkan
>>> berbeda...
>>> > Kalo full refund-pun gue kok rasa kaga "adil" yah. Selain pas tes awal
>>> no problem, dan sudah di "oprek".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > bike2lah di jalan
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Renner Chen <[email protected]>
>>> > Sender: [email protected]
>>> > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:50:39
>>> > To: <[email protected]>
>>> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: MOHON BANTUAN UNTUK JADI PENENGAH ANTARA SAYA DAN BRO
>>> DIMAS.Fwd:
>>> > [id-android] ASK : signal motorola xt720 sering hilang
>>> >
>>> > Buat gue, kalo transaksi second gitu, setelah lepas ketemuan (bila cod)
>>> itu
>>> > full tanggung jawab yang beli.
>>> >
>>> > Bila transaksinya kirim paket, yah emang karena sudah ada saling
>>> percaya
>>> > antara seller & buyer, harusnya juga di konfirmasi apakah setelah paket
>>> > dibuka setelah diterima buyer itu berfungsi dengan baik?
>>> >
>>> > Kalo udah melewati koprek² oleh si buyer, yah full tanggung jawab yang
>>> > koprek, apapun hasilnya.. gak perlu njelimet mikirin soal radio kek,
>>> > baseband kek, custom ROM kek... hehehe.
>>> >
>>> > Yang koprek yang tanggung resiko toh.. remember just do it with your
>>> own
>>> > risk!
>>> >
>>> > Just my opinion (=^_^=)
>>> >
>>> > --rc
>>> > 7" Overcome v1.6.1/2.14 OCed 1.2GHz
>>> >> [email protected]
>>> > On 29 Apr 2011 02:29, "Bayu Seno Adji" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> Terima kasih mas Lesjaw atas masukannya.
>>> >> Saya juga bingung saya pakai bener tidak apa2..
>>> >> Monggo yg lain saya minta tolong masukannya.
>>> >> Kalaupun memang saya harus refund full ya saya akan lakukan.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Bayu Seno Adji
>>> >> bayusenoadji.com
>>> >> rnbwebhosting.com
>>> >> Sent from Captivate CM7
>>> >> On 2011 4 29 02:20, "Lesjaw™ ♂" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> walah ribet jg nih..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> IMHO itikad seller dah baik .. ga diem begitu ada complaint,
>>> menawarkan
>>> >>> option refund walau dgn kondisi tertentu..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> mo cerita dikit.. sebenarnya yg paling bertanggung jawab dimasalah
>>> signal
>>> >>> adalah radio baseband, korelasi antara rom dan signal blom pernah
>>> lihat
>>> >>> saya.. yg menjadi masalah adalah ada rom yg include dgn radio .. tapi
>>> >>> kebanyakan rom custom cuma system aja..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> skr masalahnya buyer mengubah rom apakah ada indikasi radio jg
>>> berubah?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> AFAIK, memang klo sudah ada perubahan dari sisi user/buyer (dioprek
>>> >>> handsetnya) agak susah yah klo mo claim jaminan garansinya walau
>>> masih
>>> >> dalam
>>> >>> masa garansi kecuali ada perjanjian tertentu..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Saran saya buat buyer, lebih baik kembalikan dulu xt720 nya biar
>>> ditest
>>> >>> kembali oleh seller, atau ambil option 2, lumayan tuh harga desire
>>> :-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> mudah2an ada solusi yg baik..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> - Xoom ..
>>> >>> On Apr 29, 2011 1:42 AM, "Bayu Seno Adji" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>> Dear RR,
>>> >>>> Mohon maaf mengganggu.
>>> >>>> Saya mohon bantuannya untuk menjadi penengah antara saya (
>>> >>>> [email protected]) sebagai seller dan dimas(
>>> [email protected])
>>> >>>> sebagai buyer
>>> >>>> Harapan saya dengan thread ini kami mendapatkan solusi yg pas.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Senin, 25 April 2011 pukul 12.30 saya menjual xt720 kepada bro
>>> dimas.
>>> >>> Xt720
>>> >>>> ini keluaran korea dan sudah saya install stock rom korea rooted. Dg
>>> >> harga
>>> >>>> Rp. 2.125.000
>>> >>>> Dan saya kasih garansi hardware sampai kamis,28 april 2011 pukul
>>> 12.30.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hari rabu, 27 april 2011. Buyer mengabarkan kalo sinyal sering drop.
>>> >>>> Hari senin dan selasa buyer belum mengeluarkan issue ini.
>>> >>>> Dan buyer sudah melakukan perubahan rom default korea yg sudah saya
>>> test
>>> >>>> sebelumnya kalau sinyal ok dengab rom yang lain lalu baru muncul
>>> issue
>>> >>>> sinyal sering drop (perubahan rom di masa garansi ini yg membuat
>>> saya
>>> >>> tidak
>>> >>>> sreg).
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Agar dapat solusi saya menawarkan opsi sbg berikut ke buyer.
>>> >>>> 1. Saya coba perbaiki dulu dengan flash rom default. Dan jika saya
>>> tidak
>>> >>>> bisa uang saya refund tapi tidak full mengingat buyer sudah
>>> melakukan
>>> >>>> perubahan rom. Saya menawarkan refund 1.9juta
>>> >>>> 2. Saya sarankan tukar tambah dengan htc desire mulus fullset
>>> handsfree
>>> >>>> tidak ori dg menanbah 800rb.
>>> >>>> 3. Saya refund hanya untuk masalah signal (ini yg belum tahu berapa
>>> >>>> nilainya) mohon masukannya.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dari opsi 1 dan 2 sepertinya buyer belum bisa menerima.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mohon bantuan rekan-rekan disini untuk memberi masukan. Agar saya
>>> tidak
>>> >> di
>>> >>>> cap sebagai seller yg tdk tanggung jawab. Saya sangat berharap ada
>>> > solusi
>>> >>>> dari suhu-suhu disini.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mohon maaf kalau mengganggu.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Terima kasih sebelumnya bagi yang memberi masukan.
>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>> From: "dimas mailist" <[email protected]>
>>> >>>> Date: 2011 4 28 21:18
>>> >>>> Subject: [id-android] ASK : signal motorola xt720 sering hilang
>>> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Ternyata salah kirim milis yang lama.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Rekan2, mohon bantuannya ya....
>>> >>>> Sellernya mulai bermasalah.
>>> >>>> Barusan malah menyalahkan sy karena ganti rom atas rekomendasinya
>>> > sendiri
>>> >>>> (rom sebelumnya waktu serah terima juga bermasalah).
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Atau kalau ada pihak ke 3 rekan dimilis ini untuk membantu jasa tes
>>> >>> hardware
>>> >>>> yang netral.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>> From: "dimas mailist" <[email protected]>
>>> >>>> Date: Apr 27, 2011 10:04 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: ASK : signal motorola xt720 sering hilang
>>> >>>> To: "id-android" <[email protected]>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> barusan dapat xt720 di milis ini.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> tapi kenapa ya sinyal sering hilang? baik set auto maupun gsm /
>>> wcdma
>>> >>> only.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> sudah coba juga ganti kartu operator lain sama saja.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> sudah ganti-ganti ROM (khalpowers & dexter) juga.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> kemudian compare dengan device android lain (optimus one, a50, dan
>>> >>>> milestone) hanya xt720 ini yang sering hilang (emergency only) :(
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> adakah kemungkinan hardwarenya?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> mohon sharingnya.....
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> thx
>>> >>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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