Bca card emang termasuk yg nyleneh bro.  Mereka memisahkan antara kartu
kredit bca nya dengan visa/master. Mungkin akal2an mereka supaya cust bayar
2 kartu kali yah. Jd kartu kredit bca nya emang hanya bisa transaksi
offline di mesin edc bca jg,  karena gak ada logo visa/masternya.
On Sep 20, 2012 10:41 PM, "Muh Fitrah" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wkwk pantes dari tadi ga nyambung coz saya cm punya bca ∂άn ga punya cc
> bank lain. Iya bca punya dua kartu untuk cc yaitu cc visa (online) ∂άn cc
> bca card (offline), saya rasa bca card ini ga bisa buat belanja online (ga
> ada logo master atau visa).
> On Sep 20, 2012 10:31 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hehe.. Dalam kasus bca memang beda.. karena bca punya produk 'bca card'
>> yang hanya bisa digunakan di edc milik bca, artinya hanya bisa digunakan
>> offline dan di Indonesia saja..
>>
>> Untuk kebanyakan bank lain (apalagi bank international), hanya punya
>> produk cc visa atau Mastercard yang bisa digunakan di mana saja..
>>  On Sep 20, 2012 5:16 PM, "Muh Fitrah" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Berarti anda belanja online ∂άn offline menggunakan 1 kartu?
>>> Kalau saya tidak
>>> Online : visa bca
>>> Offline : bca card
>>> Atau bca card juga bisa dipakai online? Kalau bisa ya baru itu yg ga
>>> aman.
>>>  On Sep 20, 2012 9:50 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> duh.. saya gak ngerti pertanyaan anda..
>>>>
>>>> Pada dasarnya, mau belanja online ataupun offline itu sama aja..
>>>> bedanya kalau offline, informasi CC otomatis dimasukkan oleh EDC, kalau
>>>> online, informasi anda yang memasukkan..
>>>>  On Sep 20, 2012 4:45 PM, "Muh Fitrah" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bukannya yg dipakai belanja online cuma bisa visa ya? ∂άn butuh
>>>>> identitas yang lain coz selama ini belanja online visa / master ∂άn 
>>>>> belanja
>>>>> biasa (gesek) card.
>>>>> atau card bisa dipakai belanja online juga?
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2012 9:41 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> iya mas bener ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sekarang bayangkan skenario berikut ini ... anda makan di resto ..
>>>>>> udah selesai, bayar pake CC .. anda berikan CC ke pelayan .. pelayan bawa
>>>>>> CC anda untuk digunakan untuk membayar .. karena pelayannya nakal, dia
>>>>>> catet deh nomor kartu-nya dan 3 digit pengaman yang dibelakang ... 
>>>>>> setelah
>>>>>> selesai digesek di EDC, kartu dikembalikan ke anda, anda merasa aman ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> si pelayan pulang, browsing online, masukin info nomor kartu dan 3
>>>>>> digit yang dibelakang itu dan beli barang online deh .. (saya pernah 
>>>>>> ketemu
>>>>>> website belanja yang cuman butuh nomor kartu dan 3 digit pengamannya) ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> begitu lho mas maksudnya ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dan nope .. ttd sudah gak valid lagi .. saya sering tuh ttd ngasal
>>>>>> gak pernah diprotes sama siapapun ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/9/20 Muh Fitrah <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maksud saya klo yang menggunakan 3 digit itu rata2 di visa ∂άn
>>>>>>> master ∂άn berguna saat benja online, kan klo sistem gesek kan pake yang
>>>>>>> card, ∂άn 3 digit dcard ga dipakai buat identitas sah untuk transaksi 
>>>>>>> tp yg
>>>>>>> digunakan adalah tanda tangan.
>>>>>>>  On Sep 20, 2012 9:21 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> saya punya kartu kredit (dan debit card) Visa dan Mastercard,
>>>>>>>> semuanya ada 3 digit itu ...dan ada sebabnya kenapa 3 digit itu ada di
>>>>>>>> bagian belakang kartu, karena seharusnya itu dijaga .. kalau kita 
>>>>>>>> belanja
>>>>>>>> online khan itu salah satu yang harus dimasukkan ..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Muh Fitrah <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mengenai 3 digit itu kan buat visa
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2012 9:07 PM, "Arianto C Nugroho" <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gak lebih berbahaya daripada pake CC di dunia nyata ... apalagi
>>>>>>>>>> di Indonesia ... kalau bayar pake CC, kartu-nya kita kasih ke orang 
>>>>>>>>>> lain
>>>>>>>>>> (kasir), dia yang nge-swipe ..ada kesempatan buat dia liat 3 digit 
>>>>>>>>>> pengaman
>>>>>>>>>> di belakang kartu dan nomor kartu ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> belum lagi kalau ada orang dalam (bank atau Mastercard atau Visa)
>>>>>>>>>> yang bermain ... sudah ada kasusnya lho di Indonesia yang ketangkap 
>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> intinya sih, mau online ataupun di dunia nyata .. sama aja
>>>>>>>>>> bahayanya .. paling aman, ya jangan punya produk pembayaran digital 
>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM, heru subiyantoro <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As subject .
>>>>>>>>>>> Pengin dapat testimoni rekan-rekan semua tentang pengalaman
>>>>>>>>>>> berbelanja online dengan CC. Sempat dapat cerita dari teman kalau 
>>>>>>>>>>> berbahaya
>>>>>>>>>>> soalnya rawan di hack CC nya. Paypal pun juga tidak aman nurut 
>>>>>>>>>>> teman.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mohon sharingnya.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kalaupun asembling gimana sih batasannya. Bagus juga kalau bisa
>>>>>>>>>>> produksi sendiri.
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