Saya ngga timbang-timbang om Budi

Berhubung LG G4 dan Passport sudah dijual,perbandingan nya dengan note 5
aja yah
In-par dengan Note 5

Kalo dengan Passport, masih lebih berat Passport, om Budi
On Sep 20, 2015 19:31, "Budi H Roesdihardjo" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Weh dah pegang toh ini..
>
> Piye piye, bobotnya kayak passport juga atau seperti g4 yang enteng itu om
> doc..
>
> rahayu widodo, nir ing sambikolo
>
> odhenk@ celaluh dual\ON black
> On Sep 20, 2015 7:10 PM, "Prayudi Aji Murtolo" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Cukup smooth kok om Budi
>> Kebetulan saya pegang juga Note 5, jadi bisa dikompare
>>
>> Dimensi nya mirip Passport cuma lebar nya lebih banyak Passport
>> Slide out nya smooth juga seperti 9810
>>
>> Kamera nya diatas Passport tapi masih di bawah LG G4 / Note 5. Oh ya,
>> ngga bunyi crekreekkkk
>> :)
>> Semoga cuma masalah Software aja sehingga Update selanjutnya bisa lebih
>> bagus
>> On Sep 20, 2015 11:37, "Budi H Roesdihardjo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Siap om igor
>>> Terima~kasih infonya..
>>> Procinya kayak milik lg g4 yang syahdu anget itu..
>>> RAM 3gb buat loli 5.1 gimana yaa..
>>> Karena running Android RAM 4gb serta proci 810 di loli kayaknya cukupan
>>> apik kerjanya..
>>>
>>> Habis toel toel note 5,balik ke samsung galaxy ace2, berasa sedang
>>> nggowes sepeda hardtail di tanjakan nagrek garut di tahun 1950an, belum ada
>>> aspal disana..
>>>
>>> rahayu widodo, nir ing sambikolo
>>>
>>> odhenk@ celaluh dual\ON black
>>> On Sep 20, 2015 11:25, "andrew igor" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ‎Om odhenk denget" sih
>>>> Ram 3Gb
>>>> Proc snapdragon 808
>>>> Camera 14mpx
>>>>
>>>> Lainnya ga tau, mesti toel om doc yang biasanya dapet bocoran. Keyboard
>>>> kayak passport bisa buat slide layar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Salam
>>>> Igor
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Budi H Roesdihardjo
>>>> *Sent: *Minggu, 20 September 2015 09.43
>>>> *To: *id-android
>>>> *Reply To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] Blackberry Venice: Hardware Keyboard Done
>>>> Right at the Perfect Time [feedly]
>>>>
>>>> Apakah sdh ada info speck detailnya:
>>>> Layar
>>>> Processor
>>>> RAM
>>>> Kamera
>>>> Batre
>>>> Dimensi serta bobot?
>>>>
>>>> rahayu widodo, nir ing sambikolo
>>>>
>>>> odhenk@ celaluh dual\ON black
>>>> On Sep 20, 2015 09:22, "Eko Prasetiyo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> *Blackberry Venice: Hardware Keyboard Done Right at the Perfect Time*
>>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice-hardware-keyboard-done-right-at-the-perfect-time/>
>>>>> // *xda*
>>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice-hardware-keyboard-done-right-at-the-perfect-time/>
>>>>> *-developers*
>>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice-hardware-keyboard-done-right-at-the-perfect-time/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blackberry helped shape the foundations of modern smartphones, being
>>>>> one of the first brands to bring smartphone features and mobile internet
>>>>> services to mainstream consumers.
>>>>>
>>>>> These primeval smartphones were also powerful in enterprise, and for
>>>>> years they remained the favorite choice of corporate America and big
>>>>> multinationalsThose times seemingly faded with the rise of Android and iOS
>>>>> as truly “smart” alternative platforms, and Blackberry’s stagnation costed
>>>>> it reputation points that will not easily be regained.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cue the Blackberry Androids: we’ve been hearing about the
>>>>> once-monolithic smartphone maker’s incursion into Android for a while now,
>>>>> but it was not until recent leaks of the Blackberry Passport running
>>>>> Android <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4qimLLBHg> that we could
>>>>> finally believe what we wanted to hear all along. The Blackberry Venice
>>>>> also saw some leaks, this being a built-for-Android kind of phone that
>>>>> tries to marry the best of the open OS with the best of Blackberry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can it do so, and if so, how? Rather than looking at an illusory
>>>>> specification sheet from dubious leaks, I want to put forth some arguments
>>>>> regarding the *user experience* that the Venice will offer, deduced
>>>>> or inferred from the leaked images and videos that *are* certain. The
>>>>> first thing one can notice about this new Blackberry is the slider
>>>>> keyboard, which is what I primarily want to tackle below.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Keyboard and Orientation*
>>>>>
>>>>> The physical keyboards of Blackberry have always been a favorite
>>>>> amongst teenagers and businessmen alike. While software keyboards today
>>>>> have become very efficient due to increasingly intelligent word prediction
>>>>> and the ability to iterate constantly through updates, physical keyboards
>>>>> cannot be beaten in terms of maximizing simplicity and effectiveness in 
>>>>> one
>>>>> shot. Moreover, Blackberry keyboards are excellent and the company is an
>>>>> expert at making them ergonomic and efficient. That being said, I saw some
>>>>> concerns raised about the Venice that I want to explore.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a niche to please, and there is no better player to fill that
>>>>> particular void than Blackberry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlike traditional (and beloved) Android slider phones, such as the
>>>>> Original Droid and the T-Mobile G1, the Venice’s keyboard is in portrait.
>>>>> This leads people to intuitively assume that this is an inefficient
>>>>> orientation, and there are arguments both in favor and against. Software
>>>>> keyboards really cripple landscape mode but having a hardware keyboard on
>>>>> landscape allows for comfortable typing while still retaining the full
>>>>> screen. Browsing the web on slider phones back then was also a pleasurable
>>>>> experience because you had a more-traditional PC-like view of websites and
>>>>> had the keyboard ready when you need to input a URL or information, with 
>>>>> no
>>>>> obstructions to your view.
>>>>>
>>>>> That screen is smaller than how we remember it, and so is the keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I argue that the Venice’s slider orientation is better, though,
>>>>> because of the way Android has evolved and the way Blackberry has always
>>>>> been. If you were to grab an old Droid or T-mobile G1 today, you would
>>>>> immediately notice just how small they are. We have fond memories of their
>>>>> efficient landscape keyboards, but these were also small. Now, the Venice
>>>>> is more in line with current flagships, and it is said to have a 5.4 to
>>>>> 5.5-inch screen. The screen is also curved to shave off size on the side
>>>>> bezels, leading to what looks to be an efficient size. A quick look at old
>>>>> pictures of Android phones with slider keyboards, like the 117mm tall G1
>>>>> and the 116mm tall Droid, show that the keys don’t actually stretch from
>>>>> end to end and don’t exploit the full length of these phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Blackberry Venice’s keyboard does take up all available length,
>>>>> however, and with the alleged 5.4-inch screen plus the small bezels after
>>>>> the curve, that would most likely translate to the same length. So, in
>>>>> reality, the Venice’s keyboard wouldn’t be much different from the ones we
>>>>> loved on other phones in terms of pure dimensions. There is another factor
>>>>> worth considering: Blackberry specializes in this portrait keyboard setup.
>>>>>
>>>>> “Re-imagined sliders and hardware keyboards are some of the things
>>>>> that enthusiasts have been craving for a while”
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We’ve seen them on so many of their devices before the touchscreen
>>>>> smartphone, and we loved those keyboards then. Because of this, I believe
>>>>> there is little to fear in terms of keyboard size, ergonomics, and
>>>>> effectivity. But the keyboard is not just for typing, which ties into the
>>>>> browsing experience mentioned before:
>>>>>
>>>>> The keyboard functions as a trackpad, a brilliant implementation that
>>>>> allows users to browse the web. We’ve seen similar approaches from
>>>>> Blackberry before, and this wouldn’t feel like a Blackberry flagship
>>>>> without something of the sort. The trackpads and wheels of older
>>>>> Blackberries helped cement mobile internet browsing pre-touchscreen, and a
>>>>> trackpad it still remains a comfortable alternative to browse without
>>>>> covering the screen with your fingers. The other complaint I’ve seen 
>>>>> raised
>>>>> is that the landscape layout for the keyboard and screen makes for a 
>>>>> better
>>>>> browsing experience. However, I don’t think that’s particularly universal
>>>>> in 2015, where most websites, and mobile websites specifically, have taken
>>>>> on vertical designs that make touchscreen and portrait scrolling easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Two Keyboards, One Phone*
>>>>>
>>>>> The Blackberry Venice has software keyboards against it, because these
>>>>> have made leaps of progress in the past few years, especially with giants
>>>>> like Swiftkey constantly iterating and expanding. Even OEMs figure out
>>>>> amazing keyboard features that are simply impossible to realize through
>>>>> standard (traditional) hardware, such as gesture typing and keyboard
>>>>> resizing. But nevertheless, there is a niche to please
>>>>> <http://www.xda-developers.com/would-you-get-a-phone-with-a-hardware-keyboard-in-2015/>,
>>>>> and there is no better player to fill that particular void than 
>>>>> Blackberry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then there is the fact that, while the phone might have a physical
>>>>> keyboard as a main selling point, you don’t have to use it all the time. I
>>>>> imagine most people won’t slide it out if they need to reply *“k thx”*
>>>>> to a text, but I can see most power users opting for it when typing out
>>>>> long e-mails or important messages. Blackberry could also bring forth
>>>>> optimizations we aren’t aware of yet, which would only help by giving 
>>>>> users
>>>>> more options to ease the transition – or return, rather – to hardware
>>>>> keyboards.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Enterprise and Productivity*
>>>>>
>>>>> The Blackberry Venice also comes at precisely the right time to
>>>>> reclaim the Enterprise crown, and on the correct OS this time. Android has
>>>>> been eyeing this sector for a while now, and in the past two years, it has
>>>>> consistently improved in terms of security, productivity, and services to
>>>>> grab its fair share. Android at Work, the contributions from Samsung Knox,
>>>>> Blackberry’s own contributions to Android, new security measures and the
>>>>> upcoming routinely security patches, and the plethora of rich updates to
>>>>> Google Drive and Google Docs mean that Android is now a more attractive
>>>>> platform for all sorts of corporations and businesses, and Blackberry has
>>>>> the perfect name to scoop up new users.
>>>>>
>>>>> For years, Blackberries were synonymous with businessmen, lawyers, and
>>>>> the like. They were their own status symbol at the time, just like Palms
>>>>> were as well. There is still some nostalgia for all of that. It wouldn’t 
>>>>> be
>>>>> surprising if the Blackberry Venice could channel the old Blackberry fame
>>>>> through Android, with its hardware keyboard, and by sporting enhanced
>>>>> productivity features such as device-wide smart search.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Final Thoughts*
>>>>>
>>>>> The Venice is exciting due to a plethora of reasons, and unlike with
>>>>> many other flagships, none of them have to do with the phone’s price nor
>>>>> internal specifications. This device has caught the world’s eye because of
>>>>> its ambitious design, from a company known for great hardware but that
>>>>> desperately needs an innovative comeback. Android desperately needs truly
>>>>> useful innovation as well, and now that devices offer such similar user
>>>>> experiences, the Venice can stand out not by necessarily going forward, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> by looking backwards and at simpler times. Re-imagined sliders and 
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> keyboards are some of the things that enthusiasts have been craving for a
>>>>> while, and I can envision no better set of conditions nor a better context
>>>>> for this new release. We hope it lives up to its potential, but either 
>>>>> way,
>>>>> one thing is certain: it’ll be a much better option than the keyboard case
>>>>> crap that Samsung released last month.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Check Out XDA’s Blackberry Venice Forum >>
>>>>> <http://forum.xda-developers.com/blackberry-venice>
>>>>>
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