I'm not sure whether Guilherme Polo is still following this list, so
I've forwarded your note to him for comment, Tal.
Bruce Sherwood
On 4/4/2010 2:43 PM, Tal Einat wrote:
Hi guys, nice to see some traffic here again :)
VIDLE sounds quite like my IDLE-Spoon fork of IDLE, at least from the
"features" list on its page (http://vpython.org/vidle/index.html). Is
VIDLE is compatible with Python 3.x? IDLE-Spoon is not (yet).
IDLE-Spoon:
http://bitbucket.org/taleinat/idle-spoon/wiki/Home
I haven't done any work on IDLE-Spoon lately due to lack of perceived
interest. If there is some interest, I'd gladly help in merging
VIDLE's changes with those in IDLE-Spoon and porting these to Python
2.7 and 3.x.
I also have some experience getting changes to IDLE into the
mainstream version, which usually mostly involves getting the
attention of whoever is currently the official IDLE maintainer (this
used to be Kurt B. Kaiser, a.k.a. KBK for quite a few years).
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Bruce Sherwood
<bruce_sherw...@ncsu.edu <mailto:bruce_sherw...@ncsu.edu>> wrote:
Martin Löwis was a co-mentor with me on Polo's project, and Löwis,
who is one of the Python developers, said he would make sure that
Polo's improvements would go into Python. However, I'll emphasize
that I know absolutely nothing about how Python politics works,
and absolutely nothing about a possible schedule for the needed
update to happen. So the simple answer to your question is no, I
have no idea how to work with the Python developers to make this
happen, beyond my involvement with last summer's project.
I should say that the improvements to IDLE were triggered by David
Scherer, who found that in recent years some important aspects of
the big changes he made to IDLE in the year 2000 had gotten lost
or diluted, and he addressed some of the most serious issues some
months before Guilherme Polo began work on IDLE last summer. Polo
built on this work and did an excellent job of addressing some
other issues as well, Scherer, Polo, and I agreed to call the
improved version VIDLE to make it clear that it is "unofficial"
and different, but we all hope fervently that VIDLE turns into
regular IDLE.
My own involvement in this was due to the use of IDLE by thousands
of college freshmen who use VPython for computational modeling in
the context of the Matter & Interactions physics curriculum
developed by Ruth Chabay and me (matterandinteractions.org
<http://matterandinteractions.org>). Problems with IDLE were
getting in the way of our instructional goals.
Bruce Sherwood
On 4/1/2010 12:41 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 1 Apr, 2010, at 18:18, Bruce Sherwood wrote:
Last summer in the context of the Google Summer of Code a
Brazilian student named Guilherme Polo fixed a large
number of problems with IDLE. Supposedly this will some
day end up in the standard Python release.
Are you (as one of the vpython maintainers) working with the
python developers to make this happen?
Ronald
In the meantime, you can get this version, called VIDLE
for now, at vpython.org <http://vpython.org>. Perhaps it
will solve your problems.
Bruce Sherwood
On 3/9/2010 7:25 AM, Steffen Møller-Larsen wrote:
Hi, all
I have recently downloaded and installed IDLE 2.6.4
via an Activepython distribution. I find that IDLE
crashes over and over again causing it to freeze
completely. It is a real pain if the work has not been
saved. I am running it on a fairly new iMac running
OSX 10.6.2. Is this a common problem for this version?
Thank you in advance.
Respectfully
Steffen Møller-Larsen
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