David, Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I looked up doctest, and it seems like an excellent jumping off point for a metafile processor such as the one I am planning.
Chas On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:12 PM, David Handy <da...@handysoftware.com> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 03:24:45PM -0400, David Handy wrote: > > I wrote a tool, called "demotest" for presenting Python lessons with > > embedded Python code. > > > > http://trizpug.org/Members/dhandy/newclass > > > > Download demotest.py from the above page and run it. It prints each > > executable statement suite in the module's doctests and then pauses. Just > > keep hitting Enter to step through it. > > If I were to do this over again, I'd use/extend doctest.testfile(), which > reads code examples from a plain text file instead of from a Python module. > Which is even closer to what you want. > > David H > > > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:20:28AM -0700, Chas Leichner wrote: > > > Tal, > > > > > > Although I think that Sikuli is an interesting project, it is still a > > > research prototype rather than a well developed project, like IDLE. > > > Programming with screenshots is a novel approach, but using a metafile > would > > > allow a teacher easily and directly convert existing code to a tutorial > or > > > lesson just by adding the appropriate tags. Using a commands to drive > the > > > IDE would also allow the teacher to precisely dictate actions and tweak > them > > > easily instead of having to re-record screenshots, like in Sikuli. > > > > > > In addition, adding an extension to IDLE would make it accessible to > anyone > > > with a basic Python install, because there is a version of IDLE easily > > > available on all platforms that Python is. > > > > > > ~Chas > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:57 AM, Tal Einat <talei...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Chas Leichner < > chaoslic...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > IDLE developers, > > > > > > > > > > I have been in contact with Greg Wilson of Software Carpentry, > discussing > > > > > possible projects for the Google Summer of Code. He brought up > adding a > > > > > record and playback function as an addition to IDLE so that > students > > > > could > > > > > work through writing code dynamically, in the same manner they > would with > > > > a > > > > > TA or mentor. To facilitate this, I would like to add an extension > > > > module, > > > > > changes to the core code, or an alternate education version of IDLE > that > > > > > would read from a metafile with instructions to drive the IDE for > them, > > > > > writing code, stopping to explain or ask questions and wait for > answers, > > > > and > > > > > highlight sections of the code. As per the advice on the Python > GSOC > > > > page, I > > > > > wanted to contact this list, to keep you updated and for your > feedback, > > > > > before I got too far into writing my proposal. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Chas Leichner > > > > > > > > Hi Chas, > > > > > > > > This sounds like a great project! I really hope this goes well, and > > > > would love to receive updates on it, e.g. if you start a mailing list > > > > or blog about it. > > > > > > > > May I ask, why not develop something more generic, which allows > > > > various types of guided interactive learning, not just via IDLE? On > > > > first reading it seems that what you suggest could be achieved with > > > > something like Sikuli, without requiring any changes to IDLE. > > > > > > > > - Tal > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > IDLE-dev mailing list > > > IDLE-dev@python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev > > > > > > -- > > David Handy > > Computer Programming is Fun! > > Beginning Computer Programming with Python > > http://www.handysoftware.com/cpif/ > > _______________________________________________ > > IDLE-dev mailing list > > IDLE-dev@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev > -- > David Handy > Computer Programming is Fun! > Beginning Computer Programming with Python > http://www.handysoftware.com/cpif/ >
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