On 7/10/10 7:05 PM, Tal Einat wrote:
In recent years IDLE has received negligible interest and attention from
the Python community. During this time IDLE has slowly gone downhill.
The documentation and tutorials grow increasingly out of date.
Cross-platform support has degraded with the increasing popularity of
OSX and 64-bit platforms. Bugs take months, and sometimes more than a
year, to be solved. Features that have since become common-place, such
as having a non-intrusive search box instead of a dialog, are obviously
and painfully lacking, making IDLE feel clumsy and out-dated.
I have a few questions:
1. Is the issue that no one is filing patches, or that the patches are
not being applied? I've filed some (rather involved) patches to improve
IDLE's support on OS X/Snow Leopard (where Tk is built on Cocoa instead
of Carbon) and they have never been applied.
2. A search dialog vs. a search box is partly a matter of taste, don't
you think?
3. One issue that would greatly help IDLE would be to integrate the new
themed ttk widgets--has this happened in Python 2.7 or 3.1?
For these reasons, I think it would be fitting to remove IDLE from the
standard library. IDLE is no longer recommended to beginners, IMO
rightfully so, and this was the main reason for its inclusion in the
standard library. Furthermore, if there is little or no interest in
developing and maintaining IDLE, it should be removed to avoid having
buggy and badly supported software in the standard library.
I disagree that IDLE should be removed. I find it very useful. I wonder
if the issue is overworked maintainers who don't have time to apply
patches that are submitted. Certainly people should provide patches if
they are able. After all, IDLE/idleib is pure-Python, not at the C level.
--Kevin
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Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
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